On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 02:18:28PM +0100, Simon Huggins wrote: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:25:22PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:23:33AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > > > To begin with we can all go back and review: > > > http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?ReleaseProposals > > I reviewed it and it still all falls into two groups: > > - Votes for more money ("Suck less", "Release better and more often") > > Why do you think release more often is a vote for "more money"?
A 'vote for more money' is a crazy habit that plagues various forms of government and corporation, but most commonly the worker cooperative. It's when the workers pass a vote that simply pays them higher wages, or anything similar. The problem with it being that voting for it doesn't generate any extra money to pay them, so it's just not going to happen. The point here would be that this subset of the 'proposals' doesn't contain anything that would accomplish the stated goal. It's all very well to say 'we should release more often' or 'maintainers should suck less', but saying it won't make it happen. I don't consider statements like "We should fix the problems" to be meaningful proposals, it's just manager-style bullshit. > I think having a target date, even a target month for release, would > help everyone and reduce the posts to -release lately where people have > finally crawled out of the woodwork to say please let such and such a > package in. This one is "release managers should make real, practical, believable plans and communicate them to the developers, and then stick to them". Which, I will note, is not on that wiki page. Also it already seems to have been happening for sarge, now that Anthony Towns has been replaced, so I don't think it really qualifies as a proposal. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- |
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