* Julien BLACHE (I'm not an employee of canonical, but I am a Ubuntu developer, FTR.)
| How could we know ? We know nothing about Ubuntu, nothing about | Canonical, nothing about the goals, nothing about how everything was | done to begin with, nothing about who works or doesn't work there. That, sir, would be entirely the fault of yourself. It's three clicks from the front page of canonical.com what the goals of Ubuntu is. It's well documented on the www.ubuntu.com pages. About who works or doesn't work there, well, though it's not secret, it's not like the company roster is publically available. A lot of the names should be easy to pick out, though. | Everything was done with the exact same secret used for this plan. And | nobody cared enough to write up a proper announcement for Debian | developers. http://lists.debian.org/debian-custom/2004/07/msg00091.html (The same message was also posted to -devel). It was reported in the Debian Weekly News; http://lists.debian.org/debian-news/debian-news-2004/msg00044.html I don't think accusing the Ubuntu developers of hiding information is fair. I don't think most Debian developers would be happy if the Ubuntu developers forced more information down their throats -- just look at how unhappy people got by jdub posting his «ubuntu blog updates» to a feed which ended up on planet debian. | How are we supposed to trust you ? I certainly can't until this is | fixed. You can look at the processes as documented on the Ubuntu web site. There's not much we can do to make you trust us, saying «please trust us, we're nice» is a no-op. You can look at what the Ubuntu developers are doing and make your own judgements. Ask on the lists, ask on IRC. I don't think posting Ubuntu material to Debian lists is in any way appropriate. -- Tollef Fog Heen ,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]