Op do, 16-12-2004 te 14:46 -0500, schreef Ian Murdock: > We've heard > directly from the biggest ISVs that nothing short of a common > binary core will be viable from their point of view.
Well, frankly, I don't care what they think is 'viable'. 'ISV' is just another name for 'Software Hoarder'. I thought Debian was about Freedom, not about "how can we make the life of proprietary software developers easy?" As a distribution consisting only of Free Software, Debian has very good reasons to not distribute third-party binaries. That's what the LCC binaries will be: third-party. We should not compromise all that we have and all that we stand for, for the benefit of some Enterprise Managers and people advocating non-free software. If the LSB doesn't work, the non-free hoarders are free to suggest improvements where applicable; if it is impossible to create a single binary that will run on all LSB-certified distributions, then that is a bug in either the LSB process (by failing to provide a well enough defined standard), the non-free software (by relying too much on a single implementation of the standard), or the toolchain (by not being able to correctly manage the ABI of built libraries). That bug may be worked around by providing a common binary core; it will, however, not actually be fixed by doing so. One of the major benefits of Free Software is the ability to fix bugs without having to rely on external factors. If, however, rebuilding your C library will result in the loss of your support contract, you will essentially have lost that benefit, and many more with it. I refuse to accept that 'providing a common binary core' would be the only way to fix the issue. It is probably the easiest way, and for lazy people it may look as if it is the only one; but we should not dismiss the idea that it is possible to fix the Free software or the standard so that the LSB /will/ work. -- EARTH smog | bricks AIR -- mud -- FIRE soda water | tequila WATER -- with thanks to fortune