Hi, >>"Christian" == Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Christian> Perhaps we can make an exception for stupid emacs (yes, I Christian> use it too :-) Christian> I just had a look at the article again and it seams as the Christian> author silently overrides ^H to behave like Backspace :-) Christian> Anyways, I don't want to mess around with different Christian> meanings of the Backspace/Delete keys all the time just Christian> because the author of Emacs did this mistake! Unfortunately, I think this is a very poular package to dismiss this easily ;-(. Christian> Let me summarize (and please correct me if I'm wrong): Christian> 1) everyone agrees that "Backspace" (the "<--" key) should Christian> delete to the left Christian> 2) that "Delete" (the "del" key, or "Entf" for germans :-) Christian> should delete the key the cursor is standing on Ok so far. Christian> 3) ^H (that is Ctrl-H) should act like "Backspace" Why on earth? Espescially under X, delete is delete, backspace is backspace, and neither should be C-H. Is there a technical reason for this? Christian> except within emacs, where ^H should bring up the online Christian> help See above. Christian> Correct? Christian> Does someone know if this is possible? If not, I suggest to Christian> drop rule 4). Anyways, I'm talking about the "default kbd Christian> configuration" of a Debian system. Everyone is free to Christian> override this with his own meaning of some keys. I would rather remove support for Delete (which I personally rarely use). Are we going to provide instructions on how exactly to accomplish unsetting this behaviour? So that users may choose on a user by user basis? Currently, on a console, I get, under bash, and Emacs, backspace deletes char backwards, and C-H gets help, and the same thing happens on an xterm. I cheat. My backspace sends DEL under the VT, and X emacs, but not in an xterm (where it sends C-H). (I have forgotten how exactly I achieve all this on all the different platforms I reside on, now ;-() Christian> For example, we could ask the user at installation time of Christian> the emacs package, whether he/she wants to In this case the installer unilaterally dictates to the preferences of *all* users of the machine. Christian> a) ^H _and_ Backspace to bring up the help screen or ^H Christian> _and_ Backspace delete the character to the left But this is hardly the desired behaviour: we want backspace to delete the character to the left, and C-H to pull up help. We definitely don't want them both to do the same thing, ever. >> Change thingslike this around, and see another jihad erupt ;-) Christian> Hey, I'm not going to give up that early! Then let loose the dogs of war ;-) manoj -- "The less you know about home computers the more you'll want the new IBM PS/1." Advertisment in the Edmonton Journal, Thursday, December 13, 1990 Manoj Srivastava <url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mobile, Alabama USA <url:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .