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On 10/25/2004 12:44 AM, Eduard Bloch wrote:
| Ehm... what is wrong with running stable with backports? Why do you not | install a such combination for your parents, what is wrong with that? | | - Missing few important pieces of software? Backport them
so everybody should create their own backports, break things, etc. Not good in my opinion
| - all the packages are out of date? Well, though luck, this is what the | whole issue is about. We need to release faster. Faster releases are | only feasible if enough developers are motivated. They are motivated | if Unstable is blocked and they must care about the release instead | of working on stuff that makes "more fun".
fast releases with removing testing? I think you go the wrong way.
Faster release with having something between stable and testing.
Snapshot!
Every half a year you make a snapshot of testing, so you have a kind of stable release. Perhaps not 100% stable like stable, but at least not so horrible outdated.
Seriously, most people I know run testing on their boxes. Why? It is quite stable (Actually extremly stable compared to other "final release distros") and very up to date.
What should those people use? Stable? No way, too old. Unstable? Breaks often. No way. So what will they do, go away and search another distro. And I am sure there will be a lot who reported bugs.
Less bug reports means less feedback, less bug fixing. And this doesn't help to make a faster release cycle.
|>Freezing unstable will get you nothing compared to what we have now. | | What do we have? Release times reaching eternity? Testing, full of | hidden / obscure bugs that have not been visible in Sid, or that are | fixed in Sid but the update got stuck somewhere?
Thats why it would be better to do snapshot releses. Nowadays with thousands of packages and thousands of dependencies, it is completly impossible to make 100% stable release. Just look at Gnome in Debian. It takes ages to come into unstable. There are so many problems, all the time.
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