Frank Küster wrote: > Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > On Mon, Oct 04, 2004 at 05:27:59PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > >> Seo Sanghyeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > >> > For example, "camera" package name was changed to "camera.app" to > >> > prevent namespace pollution. Are you saying that it should be > >> > "gnustep-camera.app"? If so, why? > >> > >> I don't mind what it's called as long as I can see by its name that > >> it is useless without gnustep. In other words: There has to be the > >> string "gnustep" in its name, preferably at the beginning. > > > > What about nautlius? evolution? epiphany? Do they have to have to > > start with gnome-, so that I know there useless without GNOME > > installed? Are they really useless without a complete GNOME > > environment installed? > > I never used nautilus or epiphany. I used evolution (in woody), but > dropped it because it didn't seem to behave deterministic... > > Anyway, I think it depends on what one means with "GNOME installed". I > don't mind having some libraries for Gnome around (actually I use > gnumeric), but for sure I do not want the Gnome desktop. > > But if I remember correctly, GNUstep applications do not just work if > X11 and some basic library is installed, but need the GNUstep desktop to > be installed. With Gnome and KDE, I had the impression that it was > intended that all applications are usable even without using the Desktop > environment - although of course they might work and interact nicer in > their "native" environment. With GNUstep, it seemed to me that it was > not intended to run applications without the Desktop > environment. Comparable to WindowMaker Dock applications, which probably > will not run under any other windowmanager. > > If I'm wrong, I apologize and will not object against cddb.bundle (at > least not because of this. Still the ".bundle" part is meaningless to > me, but that might be due to my bad english). If I am not wrong, and > GNUstep applications are indeed not designed to be used without using > the Desktop environment, then, please, add "gnustep-" to the name.
Yes, you are _very_ clearly wrong. There is no GNUstep program that requires the GNUstep Desktop, because there no GNUstep Desktop to require! >From the user's perspective, GNUstep is basically a set of libs and some directory hierarchy imposed by the requirements of the specifications GNUstep implements. That's it. The libs provide a pretty platform-independant library of non-GUI classes, and a fairly-well-working library of GUI classes that is partially window-system independant (i.e. the only GUI backends that work completely are for X, but there's one for Windows GDI that isn't too evil). GNUstep does not form a desktop environment, and it doesn't even claim to
