Eike Sauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andrew Suffield schrieb: > > He doesn't need to, he can be slapped down. > > "Keine Gewalt!" ("No violence!") > > > We don't ignore minor issues just because there are major ones. > > So let's hope Robert can cope with minor issues > and only talk about the big ones for now. > > > - this packages adds nothing, and would occupy a fair chunk of space > > in the archive. > > I don't know how short Debian is of space. > How large would Robert's packages be? > There already are several packages with complete > kernel sources which take as much place as his package > would, right? > So is this really too large to let him test his idea?
Lets look at sid and just sources: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/debian/pool/main% find -type f -name "*kernel*gz" | xargs du -h --total | grep total 281M total [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/debian/pool/main% find -type f -name "*kernel*gz" | xargs du -m | sort -nr | head 40 ./k/kernel-source-2.6.0-test9/kernel-source-2.6.0-test9_2.6.0-test9.orig.tar.gz 35 ./k/kernel-source-2.4.22/kernel-source-2.4.22_2.4.22.orig.tar.gz 34 ./k/kernel-source-2.4.21/kernel-source-2.4.21_2.4.21.orig.tar.gz 33 ./k/kernel-source-2.4.20/kernel-source-2.4.20_2.4.20.orig.tar.gz 32 ./k/kernel-image-2.4.19-hppa/kernel-image-2.4.19-hppa_22.2.tar.gz 31 ./k/kernel-source-2.4.19/kernel-source-2.4.19_2.4.19.orig.tar.gz 27 ./k/kernel-image-2.4.19-ia64/kernel-image-2.4.19-ia64_020821.2.tar.gz 19 ./k/kernel-source-2.2.25/kernel-source-2.2.25_2.2.25.orig.tar.gz 5 ./m/mindi-kernel/mindi-kernel_1.0.orig.tar.gz 5 ./l/linux-kernel-headers/linux-kernel-headers_2.5.999-test7-bk.orig.tar.gz As you can see (apart from hppa and ia64, what are you guys doing there?) there is only one kernel source for each version. All the kernel-image packages build-depend on the one kernel source package and various kernel patch packages and are only a few K big each: -rw-rw-r-- 1 mrvn mrvn 673 Jun 24 23:47 kernel-image-2.4.20-amiga_2.4.20-5.dsc -rw-rw-r-- 1 mrvn mrvn 4.8K Jun 24 23:47 kernel-image-2.4.20-amiga_2.4.20-5.tar.gz There is no reason to duplicate the kernel source even if the images are to be produced differently. > > - this package cannot be safely upgraded (without forcing a reboot). > > The latter prohibits it from being in a Debian release. The same can be said for the current images. > So it doesn't stop it from entering experimental. > But I'm not sure if a package is worth a try if > it cannot possibly make it in a release. > > Ciao, > Eike Duplicating the vanilla source in the archive is a very bad idea. Thats an extra 40 MB for every 2.6 kernel to be. MfG Goswin