>>>>> "Ansgar" == Ansgar <ans...@43-1.org> writes:
Ansgar> And the more important question: how often do we want to
Ansgar> rehash the usrmerge discussion? At some point we should
Ansgar> stick with a decision and not endlessly restart discussions
Ansgar> (unless something really significant changes, but I don't
Ansgar> think this is the case). *mumble* leadership something
Ansgar> *mumble*For myself, I think the issues raised in DEP17 are significant enough that I would at least read a proposal to explain a different way to get to a merged /usr system. I.E. yes, I believe that something has changed significantly enough that I would be willing to read proposals for alternate ways to get to the end goal we've agreed to. However: 1) Jackson is not making such a proposal. As it turns out, he has proposed a different end goal, and has not (in my mind) met the extraordinary burden of explaining why we should change goals. He did not even address our current goal and the divergence from that goal. 2) While I would be willing to read such proposals, I am not interested in pausing current efforts unless something really unexpected comes up in such a proposal. Part of building a community is listening to people and engaging with them even when you do not expect to be convinced. I do think there are limits to that. Prior to the discussions that led to DEP-17, I think a message like Jackson's would have been out of bounds. I am disappointed that Jackson did not more clearly articulate that his end state was different than the one we agreed to: for me, that complicates things. If you argue that his message should be out of bounds because he wasn't even trying to get us to the place we had agreed we wanted to reach, I will not object. But I think coming forward and asking what level of proof would be required for an alternate approach that involved unwinding current progress but ultimately got us to merged /usr would be something in good faith at this point. Other than having an entirely different goal in mind, that is what Jackson did.
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