>>>>> "Ole" == Ole Streicher <oleb...@debian.org> writes:
Ole> Hi Sam, Am 31.01.2017 um 16:26 schrieb Sam Hartman: >> If you go back one meeting further, my interpretation is that the >> consensus of the committee seems to be that ultimately this >> decision belongs to the installer team. That is, in this case, a >> number of members on the TC seem to believe that the installer >> team gets to decide whether/how the installer makes it easy to >> install blends. If they don't want to do that for stretch, >> that's a decision within their pervue that we clearly don't have >> the votes to override. Ole> Hmm, IMO there are two things here: First, in our constitution, Ole> the installer team has no specific granted rights, apart from Ole> being maintainers of the relevant packages. This makes the Ole> conflict primarily a conflict between developers having Ole> different opinions about how to solve a certain problem. A Ole> decision here falls under the rights granted to the Technical Ole> Team by the Project leader. I think you mean by the constitution. I could see that argument. Ole> And I would expect that a decision Ole> would be made on some technical foundation. A lot of people expect that. A lot of what the TC does involves understanding how to balance technical and non-technical factors. It seems entirely appropriate for the TC to look at the technical issues here and decide who should be making the decision rather than to make a decision. What I think several of us did is look at the technical details and decide we believe that the installer team was the right set of people to make this technical decision. So, I think the TC will make its decisions on a technical foundation a lot less frequently than you do. That said, I do think an understanding of which technical factors are important is something we need to do. If there are things I can to to help you believe that we did consider the points you think important I'd like to do that. If you can think of things I can do to help you gain confidence that we have heard you, please let me know. That said, I'm hoping you can respect me when I say that hearing you does not mean agreeing with you--not even about what factors are important in making a decision. --Sam