On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:05:03 -0700 Josh Triplett <j...@joshtriplett.org> wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 16:20:52 +0200 Josselin Mouette <j...@debian.org> wrote: > > Sam Hartman <hartm...@debian.org> wrote: > > That seems very unlikely to me. Diversity is an important part of > > Debian. I think it is likely that the TC is going to value the > > Debian > > Menu as long as Bill or someone else is going to work on it. I > > would > > expect us to value the menu enough to enable those who want to > > contribute to it to do so. > > > > Given the state menu is in, reading this is⦠flabbergasting, to say the > > least. I would answer tons of things, but fortunately they have already > > been put together concisely: http://islinuxaboutchoice.com/ > > > > I think that's consistent with the consensus proposal that you > > asked us > > to consider in this bug. > > > > The consensus proposal was, in order to preserve some bits of Bill's > > ego, to let menu die slowly by stopping to require mandatory entries for > > a useless menu system that only a handful of obscure window managers are > > still able to display. Now that Bill has made very clear, by completely > > giving in to ridicule, that his ego should not be a problem, Charles is > > merely proposing to accelerate that process and avoid pain for everyone. > > Josselin, do you really believe that an inflammatory message like this is > the right way to get your point across and get people to agree with you? > > While I agree with the underlying arguments you're referring to, both > about "choice" and about the (lack of) value of the old menu system, > this kind of mail doesn't help anyone get past this issue, nor does it > come across as reasonable. It's worth noting that the old menu system > provided a significant amount of value for many years, long before the > XDG menu existed. That it no longer holds as much importants as it once
s/importants/importance/; half-finished edit. > did is no reason to denigrate people involved with it. > > - Josh Triplett > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150727224513.GA4663@jtriplet-mobl1