On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 08:09:56AM -0500, Chris Knadle wrote: > On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 20:12:20 Josh Triplett wrote: > > Steve Langasek wrote: > > >On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 09:13:52PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > >> So unless the TC wants to remove a great number of packages from the > > >> archive, you need to take into account the fact that some voluntary > > >> manpower is required to implement your decision. > > > > > > I think the current Debian GNOME team has a not-undeserved reputation for > > > being obstructionist with respect to bugfixes that require divergence from > > > upstream's stated direction. If the team demonstrated they were open to > > > contributions of the kind you described, volunteers to do the work would > > > not be hard to come by. > > > > That's an impressively high amount of doublespeak packed into a single > > paragraph, particularly the words "bugfixes", "volunteers", and > > "contributions". At a minimum, I think you're overstating the situation > > by refusing to acknowledge that the GNOME team does not consider the > > changes forced upon them to be "bugfixes". > > Responding specifically to this: > > > You (and other members of the TC) disliked GNOME's requirement of > > NetworkManager, for reasons I still have yet to see explained coherently > > anywhere. You forced the GNOME team to remove it. I certainly hope > > you find "volunteers" willing to do that kind of work increasingly hard > > to come by. > > Re: dependency removal -- sort of. The reasoning is explained for the most > part in the tech-ctte decision for #681834. [1] But just to fully make this > clear I'll also provide a brief summary of what I think happened at the time. [...snip explanation...]
I appreciate the explanation, and I'm familiar with the contents of the decision. I simply see nothing there that should have motivated a tech-ctte decision, rather than simply a couple of bug reports against network-manager and an added Conflicts/Breaks or two. - Josh Triplett -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-ctte-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140101164713.GA13257@leaf
