Also, should this wikipedia article be updated?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines

On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 9:55 AM Birzhan Amirov <john.amirov...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Thank you for your quick and detailed reply.
>
> > I suppose that we could provide a tool that would be able produce an
> image with no non-free data on it ... but the effort required to build and
> test such a tool would have to be diverted from other tasks.
> > ... to contribute to such an effort, then I'm sure the Debian-CD team
> will be
> glad to explain what would be involved.
>
> Just curious, is my understanding correct, that you had such a tool at the
> time of 11.6.0, but not anymore?
>
> Regards, John.
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 7:17 AM Philip Hands <p...@hands.com> wrote:
>
>> "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amaca...@einval.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 04:38:58PM -0700, Birzhan Amirov wrote:
>> ...
>> >> Do you have an `Official` way to de-poison your release, and if so, is
>> it
>> >> published as a document?
>> >>
>> >
>> > You can pass various parameters to the installer: you can also
>> uninstall the
>> > non-free firmware after installation - a record of what is installed is
>> recorded
>>
>> Andy seems to have given you something of a politician's answer there,
>> so I'll try giving a more direct one:
>>
>>   No, not as far as I know (if by "de-poison" you mean get to the point
>>   where the resulting image file has no trace of the firmware on it).
>>
>> However, it is possible to instruct the installer to not take any notice
>> of the firmware, nor even try to detect if it might be needed:
>>
>>
>> https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware#How_to_disable_detection_and_use_of_non-free_firmware
>>
>> which will provide you with exactly the same experience as would have
>> been achieved by using media that did not include the firmware in the
>> first place.
>>
>> I suppose that we could provide a tool that would be able produce an
>> image with no non-free data on it (by replacing relevant portions of the
>> images with NUL characters, say) but the effort required to build and
>> test such a tool would have to be diverted from other tasks (e.g.
>> getting the media to work at all, on currently unsupported hardware).
>>
>> If you feel that such a tool should be written, and have the skills to
>> contribute to such an effort, then I'm sure the Debian-CD team will be
>> glad to explain what would be involved.
>>
>> Cheers, Phil.
>> --
>> Philip Hands -- https://hands.com/~phil
>>
>

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