Hi again, I got no answer to my suggestions about improving 1st debian CD and desktop task :(
Maybe debian-cd maintainer can say if 1st CD would include more packages for beginners: hardware autodetection packages, user-friendly package managers, user-friendly configuration tools, etc. and would desktop task be splited into GNOME desktop and KDE desktop tasks ? I think aptitude and discover must be installed as default in debian woody. I'm attaching my earlier letter (for clarity): -----------------------------Earlier letter---------------------------- I found some 'duplicates' in the 1st debian CD: emacs20-dl_20.7-14.3_i386.deb - ~10MB emacs20_20.7-13.1_i386.deb - ~9MB emacs21_21.2-1_i386.deb - ~12MB I understand - emacs is a very goot thing, but I think 3 different versions of emacs in the1st CD is a luxury. Maybe only one, newest version, would be enough for the 1st CD? Then ~20 Mb will be freed from 1st CD. I think in the first CD should also be: - some good apt frontends. Now there is only dselect in 1st CD. I think there should be more user-friendly apt frontends: at least one text-mode apt frontend, like aptitude (1MB) and one graphical, like stormpkg (~100 kb), see woody release notes - http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#s-newdistro - " <...> To replace the aging, much-maligned, yet still popular dselect, many apt frontends have been in development during the woody release cycle. Interested users should investigate the aptitude package <...> hardware, better autodetection support"; - most users need automatic hardware detection system (discover - ~150kb, and maybe kudzu + sndconfig) and user-friendly network configuration tool (etherconf - ~20kb) packages; - User-friendly configuration tools, developed by Progeny: python-configlet (35kb), configlet-frontends (20kb), timezoneconf (30kb), localeconf (20kb); - gnumeric (because KSpread is already in 1st CD, 3MB + some depended packages); - xservers-v3.3.6 (14MB). All these packages (except maybe xservers-v3.3.6) should fit in 1st CD if we remove some 'duplicates' (like 3 versions of emacs) and maybe some not very useful for beginners packages (like erlang_8.0-4_i386.deb - 13MB or libopenh323-dev_1.7.4-6_i386.deb+ libopenh323-dbg_1.7.4-6_i386.deb - 7MB) I think in 1st CD shouldn't be a lot of *-dev or *-dbg (debug version) packages. It would be very nice if small and fast window-manager IceWM would be in 1st CDd too, but it is not a necessity. In my opinion task "Desktop Environment" should be spitted into 2 tasks: "GNOME Desktop Environment" and "KDE Desktop Environment", because most users use mainly one - GNOME or KDE and just sometimes some programs from other. The installation of Debian will be much more user-friendly and Debian OS will be simpler to use (especially for the beginners), if the packages, mentioned above, are included in the 1st Debian CD. Mantas Kriauciunas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
