On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, David [iso-8859-15] Martínez Moreno wrote:
> El domingo, 3 de diciembre de 2006 11:36, Anton Altaparmakov escribió:
> > > Thank you very much, guys. What should we do know, apply the two-line
> > > patch from Szaka to 1.13.1, wait for 1.14, backport any other change...?
> >
> > Entirely up to you. If you want it immediately it is easiest if you apply
> > the two-line patch from Szaka now and make your release and then when the
> > next ntfsprogs release is done (it will be 2.0 not 1.14 btw) then you can
> > release that.
> >
> > Sound good?
>
> Like a charm. :-)
Sorry I didn't explain myself better. My patch was only for Vista.
I'm paranoidly careful with changes and would like to know the exact
side-effects on the bit level on the entire volume for all non-Vista
Microsoft NTFS drivers (there are quite many!). But I don't have the
resources for that (hardware, OS, time, etc). So I'll make a surely safe
patch asap.
Of course anybody is welcome to do it earlier based on what I suggested
previously. It's not difficult (detect Vista and don't use the
VOLUME_MOUNTED_ON_NT4 flag).
Btw, there are other reliability problems with the current ntfsprogs, I'll
write about them later.
> As you probably know, we want to release Debian etch by the end of
> the year, and this bug was a showstopper. I will release a patched
> 1.13.1 then (no big changes).
This is an __EXTREMELY__ urgent issue. Each day costs probably at least
hundreds of "trashed" Vista. People won't migrate immediately, it will take
many years. Anytime somebody use their old, trusted ntfs resizing solution
with vista (gparted, qtparted, diskdrake, partition logic, older Linux
installers, etc, etc) they will be in trouble.
The same happened when the HDIO_GETGEO ioctl semantic has changed 4 years
ago in the kernel and Parted (which is used by almost all partitioners)
started to trash Windows partition tables which is still not fully fixed
today.
Thankfully Vista includes a resizer and it's easy to understand this
problem. But we also must make a well articulated solution for unbootable
Vista and spread these info and warning as quickly as possible.
Szaka
