On 07/05/2023 20:34, David Bremner wrote:
Maxim Nikulin writes:
Severity: serious

Installing elpa-org package to current Debian testing (bookworm) results
in older Org version than Org shipped with Emacs. I consider it as a
really bad surprise for people who will upgrade from bullseye when
bookworm becomes stable.

Note that by filing this bug with severity serious, you are proposing to
remove elpa-org from bullseye. This might be the right course of action,

By setting so high severity I mean that this issue may require some urgent action. Feel free do decrease it since currently the difference is a handful of fixes.

I am against *removing* elpa-org from bookworm. I have a hope that it is possible to submit *empty* elpa-org package and it still can be accepted to bookworm. No dependencies will be broken, users will get a few more fixes from built-in Org shipped in emacs-el. If a newer Org appear later in next Debian releases (or in backports) users will get it.

Since Org has different release cycle than Emacs, I do not want blocking possibility to have in Debian an Org version newer than Emacs built-in one.

Almost unrelated to bookworm (and so having less priority) issue: coming Emacs-29 will have built-in Org-9.6 and difference between versions will be substantial. Benefits of empty elpa-org in comparison to outdated Org will be more important.

This bug is also duplicate of #1033400, but that bug (for now) has
different severity.

I am sorry for that. I did not noticed it. Feel free to merge these bugs.

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