Your message dated Sun, 30 Jun 2019 22:18:05 +0200 with message-id <87lfxiddz6....@43-1.org> and subject line Re: Bug#927667: gnome: please confirm or revert choice of Wayland for default desktop has caused the Debian Bug report #927667, regarding gnome: please confirm or revert choice of Wayland for default desktop to be marked as done.
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--- Begin Message ---Package: gnome Version: 1:3.30+1 Severity: important X-Debbugs-Cc: Jonathan Dowland <j...@debian.org>, debian-gtk-gn...@lists.debian.org, debian-desk...@lists.debian.org On the debian-devel mailing list, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I was surprised to learn — by way of synaptic being autoremoved — that > the default desktop in Buster will be GNOME/Wayland. I personally do not > think that Wayland is a sensible choice for the default *yet*; and if > the consequence is that bugs for software that do not work properly with > Wayland have their severity inflated such that they are autoremoved (and > thus potentially removed entirely from Buster), a decision that — in > isolation — makes sense to me; although Synaptic is quite a high profile > package within Debian for this to happen. > > I think the default should be reconsidered. I am not exactly a core member of the team (I joined to help to maintain GLib), and I didn't make the decision to stop diverging from upstream on this particular point, so I haven't been able to articulate why that decision was made. I can completely understand if other GNOME team members don't want to interact with the -devel thread, given the amount of negativity it is attracting from people who don't like GNOME and wouldn't use it whatever we did; but I think it would be good to reassess the costs and benefits of Wayland vs. X11 by default, and either make a positive decision to keep Wayland as the default, or diverge from upstream and switch back to Xorg by default like Debian stretch and Ubuntu 18.04 did. We are now in hard freeze, so if the team does want to go back to Xorg as the default, this is our last chance. (As the maintainer of flatpak in Debian, I would be sad to see us go back to a display protocol where every app can copy other apps' window contents, inject fake input events or be a keylogger... but I'm also aware that some programs rely on X11 not providing meaningful privilege separation, and that the Wayland compositor model exacerbates any bugs that cause GNOME Shell to crash.) smcv
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--- Begin Message ---Hi, I'm closing this report as the Wayland/X11 default cannot reasonably be changed before the release by now. There have also been some comments by members of the GNOME team[1][2]. [1] https://bugs.debian.org/927667#105 [2] https://bugs.debian.org/927667#130 If there are serious enough regressions, we could still revisit changing the default back in a point release. But I would suggest to list explicit which concrete issues we are talking about in case this is proposed. Ansgar
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