Package: weboob
Version: 1.3-1
Severity: serious

Hi.

As has been extensively discussed elsewhere (eg [1]), this package has
some unfortunate sexual references.  These problems include:
 * Command names which contain sexual references
 * Sexually suggestive icons etc.
There are, I suspect, other problems.  The sexualised content is both
gratuitous and unambiguous.

IMO this is in conflict with with Debian's values, in particular those
underlying the Diversity Statement.  gregor herrmann explained very
well why this is unacceptable here [0].  As you know, the matter has
been discussed with upstream.  It appears that upstream are,
unfortunately, not willing to change this. [2]

This situation is very unfortunate.  As I understand it the package
itself is very useful for some otherwise difficult situations.
However, IMO the problems are sufficiently serious that the package as
it is is not suitable for Debian, no matter how useful it is.

So, given that upstream have rejected requests for change, IMO the
available responses for the Debian project are to bowdlerise the
package (that is, to rename the commands, review the documentation,
change the icons, and so on), or to remove the package.

It seems to me from reading the thread on -devel that a substantial
majority of the Debian contributors there agree with that conclusion.
Accordingly I have marked this bug as "serious".


I think I need to make some points about the right process for
handling this disagreement:

Of course these postings to -devel may not represent a real view of
the project's consensus.  Mailing list traffic is not a particularly
good way of judging these matters.  A better guide is the Diversity
Statement GR, perhaps: although it is not directly on point, the
majority in favour was overwhelming.  Nevertheless there is probably
some room for differing assessments of the project's overall view.

While there is no requirement for a package maintainer to abide by the
project consensus, whether a package is suitable for the release is
ultimately a matter for the Release Team.  On a matter like this I
would expect the Release Team to follow what they see as the project's
rough consensus.

I had hoped that this matter could be brought to a satisfactory
resolution amicably.  However that does not now appear to be possible.
The discussion on -devel is becoming a distraction.  IMO we need to
bring it to a close.

I consider this matter important, and I am convinced that the project
consensus is with me.  Under the circumstances it would be quite wrong
to just drop it, and accept the unacceptable status quo.

So that is why I am filing this bug now.  If you as maintainer
disagree with my assessment, then we should refer the dispute about
the bug severity to the Release Team, in accordance with usual
practice.

For the avoidance of doubt: if the Release Team feel the project's
consensus is not sufficiently clear; or that a removal decision by the
Release Team would lack legitimacy, I would quite understand.
In that case the right next step would be a General Resolution.  If
necessary I will propose and/or sponsor a GR to definitively establish
Debian's view that this package is unacceptable.

With regret,
Ian.

[0] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/07/msg00428.html
[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/07/msg00263.html
[2] See for example:
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/07/msg00386.html

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