On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:04:30 +0200 Patrick Wacker wrote: > Hello Micha and Francesco,
Hello Patrick, I am glad to see such a responsive upstream behavior. I wish *all* upstream developers interacted directly with Debian BTS bug reports! :-) Thanks a lot for your kindness and for the time you are dedicating to this issue. > > On Monday 17 June 2013 11:28:39 Micha Lenk wrote: > > Hi Francesco, > > > > Am 15.06.2013 22:29, schrieb Francesco Poli: > > >> Patrick Wacker, the upstream author of ABtransfers, replaced the > > >> non-free icons with new ones with a free license in upstream [1]SVN > > >> revision 471. This changeset should make ABtransfers DFSG compliant, so > > >> that the next upstream release is expected to have this bug fixed. > > >> > > >> [1] http://schmufu.dyndns.org/trac/abtransfers/changeset/471 > > > > > > By taking a look at the cited changeset, I see that most icons are now > > > acknowledged to be licensed under the GNU LGPL (even though the version > > > is not clearly indicated, which, under the (L)GPL rules, means "any > > > version", which does not seem to be consistent with what you say below, > > > where you state that oxygen theme icons are now under GNU LGPL v3 only). > > > > > > There are even a few icons under CC-by-v3.0: Debian FTP Masters think > > > this is an acceptable license for Debian main (although I disagree with > > > them). > > > > > > Finally there seems to be one icon which is declared as "License: Free". > > > It's not clear to me what this should mean. > > > It's definitely vague: which permissions are granted on this icon? > > > What am I allowed to do with it? What am I *not* allowed to do with it? > > > > Thanks for the hints. I will work with upstream to get a more explicit > > wording in the icons license documentation file. If you have any > > suggestions on the wording, your input would definitely be appreciated. > > Before the yesterday released version I found the answer from Francesco and > tried to explain the license issues a little bit more in detail. The changes > could be found in the changeset of r485 [1] (also released in AB-Transfers > version 0.0.4.1). > I explicit stated the LGPL v3 for the oxygen icons Good, but, to be really correct (see the kde svn changeset you yourself refer to), you should say "GNU LGPL v3 or later" or something similar. > and for the "License: Free" > I added a comment from ~Evgen were he said: "It is free for any use, > including > use in commercial products." [2] > > [1] https://schmufu.dyndns.org/trac/abtransfers/changeset/485 > [2] http://evgen.deviantart.com/art/yopls-266560093 This is a significant improvement, but still not crystal clear: it is not explicitly stated whether "use" means "inclusion into a product in unmodified form" (which would not be enough to qualify as DFSG-free) or also mean "copy", "redistribution", "modification", "preparation and distribution of derivative works", and so forth (which would be regarded as DFSG-free, as far as I can tell)... > > If there are other suggestions for the wording or other notes, I will > appreciate them. My suggestions for the wording are stated above. As a side-note, for my own personal taste, I would be much happier if the one CC-licensed icon were replaced by another icon under an uncontroversially DFSG-free license (such as LGPL, GPL, Expat, zlib, 2-clause BSD, 3-clause BSD, ...). But please recall that this is just my point of view, not shared by Debian FTP Masters (unfortunately...). Thanks for your time. -- http://www.inventati.org/frx/frx-gpg-key-transition-2010.txt New GnuPG key, see the transition document! ..................................................... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == CA01 1147 9CD2 EFDF FB82 3925 3E1C 27E1 1F69 BFFE
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