Quoting Markus Koschany (2013-04-28 18:50:23)
> tags 706343 moreinfo
> thanks
> 
> Hello,
> 
> this topic has been rehashed several times in the past for other data 
> packages of scummvm.

I doubt that to be same issue discussed, since those other packages 
(assuming you are referring to "Flight of the Amazon queen" and "Beneath 
a Steel Sky") do not even contain such executables reported here.


> I understand your concerns but actually i cannot confirm your 
> assumptions and several people including me and the ftp-masters can 
> assure you that this package is fully DFSG-compliant.

Please point me to some evidence of such support.  I would expect such 
support to be reflected in the file debian/copyright, where I find no 
mention of DOS executables seemingly embedding non-free parts at its 
compilation.


> On 28.04.2013 17:42, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Package: drascula
> > Severity: serious
> > Justification: Policy 2.1
> > 
> > source consist of a series of PACKET.00x files, and debian/copyright 
> > argues that those are fine because only if GPL-licensed the source 
> > need to be _preferred_ form of source - and this is BSD-licensed.
> > 
> > Problem is not if it is preferred form, but if it is source.
> 
> Yes, these are the source files and the preferred form for 
> modifications. The copyright comment makes it very clear that the 
> package content is licensed under a BSD-like license. This license 
> applies to each and every file.
> 
> As debian/copyright clearly states the engine for Drascula is provided 
> by ScummVM and Drascula is only a data package which is interpreted by 
> ScummVM.

It seems to be that the text arguing that this is only data files have 
been copied from other scummvm packages even though this project ships 
different kode which includes DOS *.exe files clearly *not* only data.

Please read what I wrote below!

> > Files really are arj-compressed files, and the content includes 
> > *.exe files containing this string:
> > 
> >> WATCOM C Run-Time system code is provided on an "as is" basis and 
> >> is (c) Copyright by WATCOM International Corp. 1988-1993. All 
> >> rights reserved.
> > 
> > If WATCOM licensed its C Run-Time freely, then as a minimum that 
> > licensing should be documented together with above copyright holder 
> > in debian/copyright file.
> > 
> > 
> > One of those ARJ packages also contains DOS4GW.EXE containing this 
> > string:
> > 
> >> DOS/4G Copyright (C) Rational Systems, Inc. 1987 - 1993
> > 
> > According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOS/4G that code in 
> > non-free.
> 
> 
> The copyright applies to all files, to each and every file.
> 
> A wikipedia article is not a very convincing argument.

The explicit "All rights reserved" statement is the argument.


> There is no evidence that Alcachofa Soft S.L. is not the copyright 
> holder of all these files.

Why is above quoted string dismissed as evidence?


> It would be very odd if you were the first one who identified a 
> copyright violation for a game that was released back in 1996.

I never claimed there was a copyright violation by the authors of the 
game.  I assume their license for their compiler covers their use of it.

Debian has broader requirements than those of the upstream author of the 
game.


> In consequence i cannot see a DFSG violation. I would reconsider my 
> decision if you could provide real evidence of a copyright violation 
> by Alcachofa Soft S.L..
> 
> If you have these information available, please share them as soon as 
> possible, otherwise your bug report does not qualify for this kind of 
> severity and is simply unjustified.

If this bug is closed with no other arguments presented than above, I 
feel it deserves a closer look by others (read: tech-ctte).

Please do read what I write - not just treat this repetition of an issue 
from other projects that do not even ship these kinds of files.


 - Jonas

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