On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 03:06:04AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 11:26:09AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > reassign 325484 udev
> > retitle 325484 udev lacks sarge->etch upgrade path
> > thanks
> 
> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 01:46:49AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > > udev >= 0.060-1 and kernels >= 2.6.12 should enter testing at the same
> > > time.
> 
> > You have to provide a proper sarge->etch upgrade path. This bug is the
> > sign of lack this path.
> 
> Requiring that users reboot to 2.6.12 before installing the new version
> of udev from etch *is* a valid upgrade path.  There were similar upgrade
> path choices that had to be made for woody->sarge on some archs due to
> kernel/glibc incompatibilities between versions; the udev upgrade path
> provided is not really any different than that, and unless someone can
> show a working implementation for udev that doesn't require this, I
> don't intend to second-guess Marco on this issue.

BTW, you are aware of the etch situation concerning alsa-utils and udev not
being co-installable ?

> Of course, we want udev 0.060 and linux-2.6 to be available at the same
> time in each suite, because dealing with the udev preinst failure is
> still disruptive -- we want users to install the kernel update *first*.

I don't understand this, if having the wrong udev for your kernel is only
minorly disruptiuve, why this anoying preinst rule ? I mean, i have tried to
do a couple of times in the past days and upgrade from sarge to sid kernels,
and always udev complained when i upgraded kernels, while they should have
been installed both at the same time.

> This bug was opened to ensure that.  Marco, since it looks like udev is
> going to be ready to go into testing before linux-2.6, and the breakage 
> of new udev with old kernel is much worse than the breakage of old udev
> with new kernel, I think it would be a good idea to keep a bug open on
> udev for right now, even if the kernel maintainers object to having it
> listed against linux-2.6.

It would also be nice for Marco to be a bit more cooperative next time such
situation arise.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



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