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Package: docbook-xsl
Version: 1.68.1-0.1
Severity: grave
Justification: renders package unusable


Although the issue in itself is probably not extremely important, I stll
think it is RC because it is an regression for which other packages
(probably xsltproc) need to be fixed, for which there is no time before
Sarge.

After upgrading docbook-xsl from 1.66.1-1 -> 1.68.1-0.1, I get the
following warnings while building the Debian Installation Guide:
  The shade.verbatim parameter is deprecated. Use CSS instead,
  for example: pre.screen { background-color: #E0E0E0; }

In the resulting html files, examples that used to have a grey
background for distinction, now have a normal white background, so the
distinction is lost.

This is the only warning I get for the manual, but I am concerned that
other similar regressions may have been introduced.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.8-15.0504-1
Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1)

Versions of packages docbook-xsl depends on:
ii  xml-core                      0.09       XML infrastructure and XML catalog

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On Sunday 22 May 2005 04:20, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> First of all sorry to be harsh but the installation manual wouldn't
> have problems if you had used this package properly in the first place.

Probably. Problem is that I myself have hardly any background on this 
stuff and like with a lot of projects, you take what you get left with by 
predecessors and build on that.

Also, IMHO the documentation on how to use this properly is very 
fragmented. You have to know what to look for before you can even begin 
to guess how to do something.

> Bear in mind the version released in sarge is the one users 
> will have to live with for upto 3 years.

When I reported this bug I was under the impression that the warning was 
not caused by a setting we could easily change for the manual, but that 
it was somehow immutably set from other packages.
So my reason for filing an RC bug was that very same concern.

After quite a bit of 'find', 'grep' and 'google' I find that I was wrong 
in that assumption.

> I tell you what, refer any problems with the Installation manual to me
> and I will fix them without delay.  But please close this bug or
> atleast reduce it to e.g. minor.

I've now managed to fix the problem for the manual, using css (hopefully 
properly. Therefore closing.
The positive side of the bug report has been that I probably never would 
have found the solution without this discussion, so thanks to all 
involved.

Now that I _do_ know how to use css from docbook, we have of course very 
nice new options to tweak the formatting of the manual :-)

I still think it is *extremely* lousy timing and _not_ conform the 
principles of the freeze to introduce a change like this this close to a 
release.

It's now 5:30 in the morning. I've spend about 2 hours on this after 
spending most of the evening and the early night on editing the Release 
Notes for Sarge and updating its Dutch translation.

Let's just call this my contribution to getting the count of RC bugs down.

Cheers,
FJP


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