On Aug 30, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Most modems used with PPPoE do not have management interfaces. There is
> often not much use for an IP adress.
This is not my experience.

> > use the "manual" directive.
> The manual directive does not bring the interface up. And there should
> be no reason to polute the config with it anyways.
iface eth0 inet manual
        pre-up ip link set up $IFACE

I do not believe this is "pollution". You have a network interface, so
you need to configure it.

> Any other options? Programs should be error tolerant. ppp isn't since
> you have deliberately removed the interface-up patch. And your arguments
It was an ugly hack rejected by the upstream maintainer. There is not
much else to add.

-- 
ciao,
Marco

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