Hi, yellow protoss wrote: > Surely I am glad that screen exists, and I apologizes if my reportbug got > bit of emotions in there.
Well, emotions in bug reports often cause emotions on the other side, too. :-) > - I understand the problem basically depending on su and sux. The problem of > permission/dev is definitely very difficult to the solved, or would imply > lot of change. I wished that the users do not find this error message > anymore somehow, with maintaining a secured box (some chmoding or root power > would easy but... ). Well, yeah, the error message could be improved, yes. One reason why I did not close the bug as configuration issue. :-) > The issue is not seen under X11 regular use, and luckily, -very > luckily, screen works . Indeed when users do some su or sux or ssh > sometimes, the issue can occur. It should not occur with ssh unless call screen directly by ssh. In that case, ssh needs to be given the -t option to allocate a terminal, e.g. "ssh user@host -t screen". > Well, one day, If you or someone code a fork to screen There exists a rewrite/redesign of screen called tmux[1]. See the package[2] of the same name in Debian Squeeze and the Lenny Backports repository. [1] http://tmux.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://packages.debian.org/tmux > that can solve the issue, please do not hesitate to let me know, > because I a fan of screen, can't live without since I admin > regularly boxes over SSH and the net wire Well, you made me curious and to my surprise, tmux does not seem to need access to the terminal device in case of "su": snidget:~# su - abe ?0 abe@snidget:pts/48 (-su) [~] > tmux [exited] ?0 abe@snidget:pts/48 (-su) [~] > screen Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/48' - please check. ?1 abe@snidget:pts/48 (-su) [~] > I must admit that did not expect this. :-) Interestingly it nevertheless seems to need a terminal when using ssh: ?0 abe@snidget:pts/47 (zsh) [~] > ssh localhost tmux not a terminal ?1 abe@snidget:pts/47 (zsh) [~] > ssh localhost -t tmux [exited] Connection to localhost closed. ?0 abe@snidget:pts/47 (zsh) [~] > I hope that this may solve some issues for you before screen becomes that flexible, too. P.S.: Is frenchn00b@gmail[...] another (former) e-mail address of you, or maybe one of your users? Because http://bugs.debian.org/610201 looks like the very same issue, too, and the bug report has been sent via the same ISP and local router as at least some of your bug reports. (If so, I'd merge that bug report into this one, too. :-) Regards, Axel -- ,''`. | Axel Beckert <a...@debian.org>, http://people.debian.org/~abe/ : :' : | Debian Developer, ftp.ch.debian.org Admin `. `' | 1024D: F067 EA27 26B9 C3FC 1486 202E C09E 1D89 9593 0EDE `- | 4096R: 2517 B724 C5F6 CA99 5329 6E61 2FF9 CD59 6126 16B5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
