On 11/12/2010 06:47, Kalle Olavi Niemitalo wrote:
> Vincent Danjean <vdanj...@debian.org> writes:
>
>> For example, I've lots of old text data in latin1. Some of them are on
>> non-rewritable media. Being able to see them with
>> "LC_CTYPE=fr_FR less toto.txt" is very convenient.
>
> less does not convert the characters to UTF-8 for display, so you
> also need a latin1 terminal for that command, and typing file names
> in such a terminal will make them latin1 too, which is not nice.
> Alternatively: iconv --from-code=ISO-8859-1 toto.txt | less
What you say is logical but I'm sure I only used "LC_CTYPE=.. less ..."
to look at old documents. I just try some experiment to be sure (my terminal
is urxvt, with LANG set to fr.FR.UTF-8, no other LC_* variables set).
lat.txt contains latin-1 text,and utf.txt contains utf-8 text.
Correct display (with ! when I found this strange):
cat utf.txt
! cat lat.txt
less utf.c
LC_CTYPE=fr_FR less utf.c
LC_CTYPE=fr_FR less lat.c
Incorrect display
less lat.c
Now, run in a urxvt launched with LC_CTYPE=fr_FR
Correct display:
cat lat.txt
less lat.txt
Incorrect display:
cat utf.txt
less utf.txt
LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 less utf.txt
LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 less lat.txt
>> There are also lots of old web pages written in latin1 that are still
>> used (old exercises, ...) Not being able to see them properly on a
>> Debian system would be a pain.
>
> I don't believe you need a latin1 locale for viewing latin1 web
> pages. The charset will be available from iconv() in any case,
> or browsers may have charset converters built in.
Ok. I do not know what will stop to work if legacy locales are
removed (ie I do not know what is using locales and what is using
other mechanisms)
Regards,
Vincent
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