Hi Julien,

On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 08:53:48AM +0200, Julien Valroff wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Now that dovecot source package swtiched to 3.0 (quilt) format, dovecot
> maintainers do have the possibility to include dovecot-antispam as a
> secondary orig tarball, making binNMU's useless and ensuring
> dovecot-antispam is both usable and installable.

Well the big issue right now is that it's currently functionally broken
with the dovecot in Squeeze, more than just a binnmu can fix this time.
Upstream knows about it, but still apparently hasn't had time to do
anything about it himself yet (there's nothing new in git today).
Until we have a patch for that, it's all kind of academic really.

Aside from that though, I don't really think the new source format
should be seen as a licence to mash things from different upstreams
into a single blob.  As much as I'd love to see this actually adopted
by upstream dovecot as a maintained part of their usual distribution,
I don't think that debian should be merging packages like that ourselves.

We shouldn't be inflicting useless 'upgrades' of dovecot on people for
a patch to a 3rd party plugin they don't use.  Not when that doesn't
actually gain us anything.  The dovecot maintainers could just as
easily do sourceful uploads of the existing package if this is the
way we want to keep them in sync.


> Do you see any objection if I contact dovecot maintainers and ask them if
> they would agree?

I'll have a chat to Jaldhar about final plans for squeeze.  So far we've
been somewhat running on the promise of a stable ABI "coming soon".
I'll see what news there is with that.  Merging the packages is surely
not something we want to do at this point in the freeze anyhow.

> I might be able to work on a patch though not in the immediate future.

If someone can look at why it's currently failing, that would be awesome.
I haven't had time to dig into that either, but I suspect someone who
knows dovecot internals would find it pretty quickly.  If we don't find
it soon, then I might have to get this one pulled from squeeze anyhow.

Cheers,
Ron





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