Le mer 2005-08-17 a 02:05:14 -0400, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a dit:
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 01:51:53AM -0400, SR, ESC wrote:
> > > Yep, but nobody came forward and did so. This should h&ave been mentioned 
> > > in
> > > the errata though at least.
> > 
> > there's people who did for woody, but they feel that they were
> > overlooked and hurt from that, and therefore didn't pitch in, and i'm
> > no coder, i'm more bofh. maybe i can get him to help, and not do
> > "everything".
> 
> That is pure bullshit, i have been asking for help on miboot since over a year
> befor the release, and only a few cared to help there, as the archives of
> debian-boot will show you.Who are those supposed people anyway ? Ethan
> probably ? Well, i had to battle during 6 month tro get him to accept theamiga
> partitioning support in yaboot, and from what i understood, he wanted us to do
> it his true right wxay and nothing else.

oh yeh. i was just relaying what he said to me, that's all. please
don't shoot the messenger :). well, it's not really relevant, we can
do it ourselves then.

> > > The current only way to boot an oldworld in a free manner is to drop to 
> > > the
> > > firmware and boot the vmlinuz-coff.initrd from it.
> > 
> > hmm, do you have some reference docs to do that? that looks
> > potentially rather interesting.
> 
> You have to drop into the firmware. Docs may probably be found on apple site
> for that, but the way i know involves a serial cable.

oh, ok, so it's just a command in OF? so i could do this from CLI in
OF, anywhere. doesn't have to be serial =) (although there are
distinct advantages to that).

> > > > > Maybe i should build a couple of miboot floppies accompanying the 
> > > > > official
> > > > > release ?
> > > > 
> > > > that would be nice, and appreciated. quite often people installing
> > > > linux want nothing to do with mock os, or apple. the oldworlds often
> > 
> > > (Notice i did build some nubus kernel even, but i guess nobody even 
> > > bothered
> > > to test those.)
> > 
> > it's ok, some people did, in the channel for instance.
> 
> but i had zero feedback. I don't even know if they work or not. They probably
> don't even.

oh, some people did, seems one person or more did manage, a while back. not
many nubus people there (that i've seen, and somewhere to get feedback
would be cool, not everyone knows to e-mail the DD involved, they have
to be told that that can, and i don't always think of it myself =).

also seems someone tried booting os x on an ancient box, ask NuBusPPC
sometime.

> Friendly,
> 
> Sven Luther
> 

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