Hi all, On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 03:01:14PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > David Kalnischkies <kalnischkies+deb...@gmail.com> writes: [...] > >> For apticron: can this be worked around or maybe just document ways the > >> user can prevent it from happening? > > By popular depend (or by us for debugging proposes) is a little cheat option > > implemented in apt (currently only in experimental) which can control the > > essential flag: > > pkgCacheGen::Essential=all|native|installed|none > > (you need to build the cache with this option!) > > I do not recommend to use nor do i will support the usage of this option > > (and because of that it is also not documented) but some people really > > thing it is important, so i don't want to stay in their way to break their > > system if they really want to do that, as i am bored by the whole discussion > > for a long while now - especially because this discussion generated far more > > mails than debian includes essential packagesÂ… I really thing we have > > better things to do than thinking about transition handling for ~30 > > packagesÂ… > > And most cases aren't about a transition but about maintaining a mixed setup. > And in a mixed setup the essential debs from all releases must be > installed.
From apticron side: I support the opinion that once the user has testing/unstable repositories in a stable system it's reasonable to consider installing the essential packages from those Debian suites. So IMO the current issue is not a bug in apt-get. However, from apticron's description: "...sends daily emails about pending package updates such as security updates". So, warning the user about how to proper handle other stuff in his/her mixed system is not apticron's role. Also, sending emails about pending updates related to packages which are not even installed is definitely a bug in apticron because it makes user confused. But as it is not a grave bug and it's a kind of exception caused by (IMO a feature, not a bug of) another tool, I propose to insert a BUGS section in apticron's manpage explaining such issue, pointing out this bug report and giving the user options (like puting packages on hold or installing them) in order to avoid those annoying emails from apticron. What do you think? Best regards and thanks for your time here, -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- .''`. Tiago Bortoletto Vaz GPG : 1024D/A504FECA : :' : http://tiagovaz.org XMPP : tiago at jabber.org `. `' tiago at {tiagovaz,debian}.org IRC : tiago at OFTC `- Debian GNU/Linux - The Universal OS http://www.debian.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
