On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Craig Small <csm...@debian.org> wrote:

> I disagree. pgrep/pkill (they're the same binary) are like grep and use
> the same flags. I think that is important.

I think it is more important to protect users.  But you are the
maintainer and so the decision is up to you.

Now I will continue to respond to the other arguments that you said in
your last mail.

> Changing the flags now will cause more problems than it will solve
> because now you will have different flags for new Debian servers, old
> ones and the rest of the world.

Maybe you could gradually transition it in, by making both options
work for a year or two and printing a warning message, then disabling
-v.

> If you are not careful you can do bad things easily. pkill -v is in the
> same vein as fuser -km / or the old rm -rf / mydir/myfile.

Yes.  But I think it would be good if you disable this particular bad
thing, just like GNU disabled the old rm -rf / mydir/myfile.

> Principle of least astonishment is all good, but inconsistent flags
> across different Linuxs is even worse.

Which Linux does not use Debian procps?  For example, it looks like
Fedora uses Debian procps.[1]

> While I do understand what you
> are trying to do here I don't agree. Given that, I'm closing this
> bug.

What would you think if we posted on the debian-devel list and asked
for more advice on other possible options to prevent accidental
killing-all-processes with pkill -v?

^  [1].  http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/procps/devel/FAQ?view=markup



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