On 09/01/09 15:41, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
Thanks for the summary, it'll definitely be quite helpful for users. It
might be a good idea to push that to the xfce4{-session} README.Debian.
Would you license it to GPL or something? :)
Please feel free to include it in the README.Debian file if you think it
will be helpful.
1) The "Debian" way:
Set xfce4-session as the default session manager for X (with
update-alternatives) and use "startx" at the console to start xfce4.
This will provide a minimal xfce4 session. For a more complete xfce4
session, the user can put "exec /usr/bin/startxfce4" in $HOME/.xsession,
so that various environment variables are set correctly for xfce4.
And this is the preferred way :)
2) The "xfce4" way:
Put "exec ck-launch-session /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc" in
$HOME/.config/xfce4/xinitrc, make $HOME/.config/xfce4/xinitrc
executable, and use "startxfce4" to start xfce4. This will ensure the
various environment variables are set correctly for xfce4, and will also
ensure that a correct consolekit session is started.
In fact, even method 1) will enable that, since startxfce4 will
run /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc (or $HOME/.config/xfce4/xinitrc if it
exists)
True, but only if "exec /usr/bin/startxfce4" is put into
$HOME/.xsession. Otherwise, it appears that the Debian "startx" process
just runs /usr/bin/x-session-manager, which for xfce4 is xfce4-session,
not startxfce4. (I determined this by looking at
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/50x11-common_determine-startup).
For either method, libpam-ck-connector can be installed or not
installed, it doesn't matter.
For method 2), perhaps one day the xfce4 developers will include
ck-launch-session in the startxfce4 script (as they did for dbus), and
then the xinitrc customization will no longer be necessary.
It's already not necessary, imho.
I have confirmed that if the user just runs "startxfce4" without making
any other customizations to the xfce4 or X11 startup process,
ck-launch-session does not get used, and thus the original problem remains.
For users of gdm/kdm/xdm, I do not know if it is possible to get more
than the minimal xfce4 session - it will depend if those display
managers call startxfce4 and/or set the correct environment variables.
As I don't use gdm/kdm/xdm, I cannot test that.
Then don't worry, they already call (gdm at least does) startxfce4.
I note that gdm uses the .desktop files in /usr/share/xsessions to
determine what session managers are available. If startx used a similar
mechanism, then using $HOME/.xsession to spawn startxfce4 would become
unnecessary too.
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