On Wed, 25 Mar 2026 at 15:17, Frédéric Brière <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dang, I was utterly convinced to be the last person left on this planet
> still using xzgv nowadays!  Imagine my surprise upon learning that there
> are other people on this boat.  (Including celebrities.  ☺)
>

I am amazed, horrified, etc.


> On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 10:29:16AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > As far as I can tell, there is no active upstream anymore, and I am not
> > aware of ongoing efforts to port xzgv to GTK3 or GTK4.
>
> Me, I was merely planning to keep a copy of libgtk2.0 around forever,
> but given how this could actually be of use to other people, I decided
> to take a stab at a porting attempt.  (Despite my lack of experience
> with GTK.  Not that this kind of thing has ever stopped me before.)
>
> What I have so far is more of a proof-of-concept at this point, in that
> it compiles, doesn't immediately crash, and appears to be able to
> perform at least the bare minimum:
>
>   https://github.com/fbriere/xzgv/tree/gtk-3


I am impressed, dismayed etc.

If it's any encouragement (or perhaps the opposite), I did the Gtk1→2 port
very much having never worked with Gtk before (or since!), and it was not
hard. The down-side is that goodness knows what sort of crackpot
non-idiomatic Gtk2 usage I left behind for you to unravel.

Also be warned that proper testing might take a while; although I use
> xzgv every day, that version includes several patches that would require
> porting/merging before I would consider switching over.  (I'm hesitating
> between submitting these well-tested patches upstream *before*
> finalizing the port, or porting first and submitting these now-rebased
> no-longer-well-tested patches afterward.  We'll see.)
>

I guess since the user community is sufficiently small, it's really up to
you.

If I had anything to do with it, I would be going for whatever is the best
path to continuity, keeping xzgv in Debian without a break etc.

The only other thing that occurs to me is whether Ardour's YTK would be a
better/more stable target. If it gets into Debian, it's definitely worth
considering.

En tout cas, *chapeau* à tous ! I continue to maintain a couple of projects
older than xzgv, and I think some people find that sort of long-term
continuity even of software with but a handful of users extremely
satisfying.

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