Hi, On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 23:16:23 +0100 Andrew Bower <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > ok I'm going to try this, but I have few questions: > > > > * why map scope= to a number, if I can filter for the word? do we > > need to filter for something within each scope (and it can be done > > with the numeric mapping)? > > The reason was that I was thinking the scope runs theoretically > between 0 and 255 and although most aren't used now in any situations > I am aware of, they could be, and we should be agnostic to this, so > you'd say you need something of at least a certain scope, which works > better with a number. It's probably excessive. ok > > It might be worth us trying out an example implementation and seeing > if it looks sensible or silly. will try something this weekend > > > * what to do if scope= and or family= are not passed to the command? > > just fail or have some default for both? > > No family would mean any family; missing scope I'm not sure, I think > possibly >=link-local or >=global. > > I'm not particularly wedded to those arguments, by the way, I just > came up with it as an example of the sort of thing we could have. > > > * what if ip (and or ifconfig) are not found in the system? is it > > safe to assume that network is not configured and fail in this case? > > That's a good question. Needs further thought. Might be worth noting > we're probably doing more than the initscripts would here - they would > just wait until networkmanager/dhclient/networking or whatever > services have been started and possibly failed. So maybe we're over > thinking this and actually need to wait on default-network instead > which can launch those like default-rsyslog does. But I think it > would be ugly to have a service launch another service to do this - > is there a way of having an alias for whichever network setup service > is configured default-syslog is a first attempt, and I'm not happy about it. I don't find attractive to play with symlinks and alternatives either.. Recently I was thinking: * define a facility "suffix" in runit; for example '-log' for sysloggers (could be '-net' for network) * rename all services that belong to the group appending the common '-log' suffix to the end of the service name. For example rsyslog-log, socklog-unix-log and so on * in run files of services that require one service of the '-log' group check the service with full path and wildcards, for example 'sv check /etc/service/*-log' but I still have to test if it works as expected.. Lorenzo
