* Bob Rosbag <[email protected]> [250831 22:20]:
I tried the two variables separately and once combined. In all three instances, I created a new user, logged in on tty4, ran "touch test" and checked the user/group name and its permissions. All had the same group name as the username and the same file permissions (664).

Can you explain -how- you created the new user? useradd is supposed to look at USERGROUPS_ENAB, but other tools might not.

[..umask..]

If PAM ignores UMASK in /etc/login.defs, I'll delete it from /etc/login.defs. I think pam_umask is supposed to read it?
login(1) ignores it.

I'll wait for Sam to chime in here.

Chris

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