Hi!
Am Mittwoch, dem 12.02.2025 um 19:27 +0100 schrieb Abou Al Montacir:
> Hi Johann,
>
> On Tue, 2025-02-11 at 21:54 +0100, Johann Glaser wrote:
> > Hi!
> > > ...
> > Ok, thanks, good to know.
> >
> > > > I used "aptitude" to update, but also on the command line with
> > > > "dpkg" I
> > > > get the same errors:
> > > Can you give a bit more precision?
> > > 1. What aptitude command did you use exactly?
> > > 2. What version was already installed before you execute that
> > > command?
> >
> > I use "aptitude" in its text-mode "GUI" version. Just "aptitude" as
> > root, then "u" to update the packages list, then "g" to start to
> > update
> > the packages.
> OK that is the basic scenario (equivalent to aptitude update &&
> aptitude upgrade) that I usually use to upgrade.
Exactly.
> > Lately it was always 3.8+dfsg1-${N-1}, and before that it was
> > 3.6+dfsg1-4, according to:
> Actually the diversion issue was fixed in 3.8+dfsg1-3.
Wait! Did you see the difference between 3.6 (six) and 3.8 (eight)
here?
I had 3.6...-4, 3.8...-1, 3.8...-2, 3.8...-3, ...
> > # zgrep -h lazarus-ide /var/log/aptitude* | sort
> >
> > > > # dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/lcl-units-3.8_3.8+dfsg1-
> > > > 7_amd64.deb
> > > > /var/cache/apt/archives/lazarus-ide-3.8_3.8+dfsg1-7_amd64.deb
> > > > (Reading database ... 646108 files and directories currently
> > > > installed.)
> > > > Preparing to unpack .../lcl-units-3.8_3.8+dfsg1-7_amd64.deb ...
> > > > Unpacking lcl-units-3.8 (3.8+dfsg1-7) over (3.8+dfsg1-6) ...
> > > > dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/lcl-
> > > > units-3.8_3.8+dfsg1-7_amd64.deb (--install):
> > > > trying to overwrite
> > > > '/usr/lib/lazarus/3.8/components/IdeInspector/ideinspector.lpk'
> > > > ,
> > > > which
> > > > is also
> > > > ...
> > > Can you please check the content of
> > > cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/lazarus-src-3.8.preinst
> >
> > See attachment. This is from 3.8+dfsg1-7. --> No, it is now from
> > 3.8+dfsg-8, which I installed during writing this EMail, see below.
> > But
> > from a visual check it looks very similar if not identical.
> Yes they should be identical as the issue was fixed in -7.
> However from you log you appear to upgrade from -6 to -7. I think
> this happens because somehow, you installed a broken version (-1 or -
> 2) and that prevented the right creation of diversions. So each time
> you upgrade it will give this error, until you purge or force
> installe (which you did both below).
Great, thanks for the hint!
> > > > When I install with --force-all, it works with numerous
> > > > warnings:
> > > >
> > > > # dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/lcl-
> > > > units-3.8_3.8+dfsg1-7_amd64.deb
> > > > /var/cache/apt/archives/lazarus-
> > > > ide-3.8_3.8+dfsg1-7_amd64.deb
> > > > (Reading database ... 646108 files and directories currently
> > > > installed.)
> > > > Preparing to unpack .../lcl-units-3.8_3.8+dfsg1-7_amd64.deb ...
> > > > Unpacking lcl-units-3.8 (3.8+dfsg1-7) over (3.8+dfsg1-6) ...
> > > > dpkg: warning: overriding problem because --force enabled:
> > > > dpkg: warning: trying to overwrite
> > > > '/usr/lib/lazarus/3.8/components/IdeInspector/ideinspector.lpk'
> > > > ,
> > > > which
> > > > ...
> > > > also in
> > > > package lazarus-src-3.8 (3.8+dfsg1-7)
> > > > Setting up lcl-units-3.8 (3.8+dfsg1-7) ...
> > > > Setting up lazarus-ide-3.8 (3.8+dfsg1-7) ...
> > > > update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/lazarus/3.8/startlazarus to
> > > > provide
> > > > /usr/bin/lazarus-ide (lazarus-ide) in auto mode
> > > > ...
> > > Does it work with this?
> >
> > Yea, as said, it complains a lot about files which it overwrites,
> > but
> > it finishes, and then dpkg as well as aptitude are happy, i.e.,
> > there
> > is no unconfigured package or something like that.
> Yes, I think now your system will no more complain as the install --
> force-all forced fix of the diversion.
It initially did not. I had to run with --force-all vor _every_ new
version (-5, -6, and -7). Only after purging and then installing -8 it
worked without complaints.
> > > > -- System Information:
> > > > Debian Release: trixie/sid
> > > > APT prefers stable-security
> > > > APT policy: (500, 'stable-security'), (500, 'unstable'),
> > > > (500,
> > > > 'testing'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 'experimental')
> > > > Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
> > > > Foreign Architectures: i386
> > > > ....
> > > > lazarus-ide recommends no packages.
> > > >
> > > > lazarus-ide suggests no packages.
> > > > ...
> > > Will it be possible to uninstall (maybe purge) all lazarus/lcl
> > > packages and install again?
> > > I just installed a fresh version of 3.8 over a 3.6 and it went as
> > > expected.
> >
> > Interesting! After i purged all lazarus-*-3.8 packages, I still had
> > many 3.6 packages left.
> >
> > Entfernen von lcl-3.6:amd64 (3.6+dfsg1-4) ...
> > Entfernen von lcl-units-3.6 (3.6+dfsg1-4) ...
> > Entfernen von lcl-gtk2-3.6 (3.6+dfsg1-4) ...
> > Entfernen von lcl-nogui-3.6 (3.6+dfsg1-4) ...
> > Entfernen von fp-units-fcl:amd64 (3.2.2+dfsg-45) ...
> > Entfernen von fpc (3.2.2+dfsg-45) ...
> > Entfernen von fpc-3.2.2 (3.2.2+dfsg-45) ...
> > Entfernen von lazarus-ide-gtk2-3.6 (3.6+dfsg1-4) ...
> > Entfernen von lazarus-ide-3.6 (3.6+dfsg1-4) ...
> > Entfernen von lazarus-src-3.6 (3.6+dfsg1-4) ...
> Installing 3.8 does not uninstall 3.6. This is a feature, not a bug.
> The command you ran, does not uninstall lcl units, so you need to
> uninstall them too.
> Fpc was probably installed manually that is why it remains.
Ok, got it.
> > Then I've installed a fresh lazarus with all dependencies, plus
> > FPC,
> > and there where no such errors any more. There are no unconfigured
> > packages and aptitude is happy. I hope I didn't have any custom
> > Lazarus
> > or FPC configuration files. :-)
> For users, we really recommend to install this way (aptitude install
> lazarus fpc) which corresponds to (aptitude then /lazarus i /fpc i g)
Ok.
> > However, I got a few warnings:
> >
> > update-alternatives: Warnung: Erstellung von
> > /usr/share/man/man1/lazbuild.1.gz wird übersprungen, weil die
> > zugehörige Datei /usr/share/man/man1/lazbuild-3.8.1.gz (der Link-
> > Gruppe
> > lazarus) nicht existiert
> > update-alternatives: Warnung: Erstellung von
> > /usr/share/man/man1/lazre.1.gzs wird übersprungen, weil die
> > zugehörige
> > Datei /usr/share/man/man1/lazres-3.8.1.gz (der Link-Gruppe lazarus)
> > nicht existiert
> > update-alternatives: Warnung: Erstellung von
> > /usr/share/man/man1/lrstolfm.1.gz wird übersprungen, weil die
> > zugehörige Datei /usr/share/man/man1/lrstolfm-3.8.1.gz (der Link-
> > Gruppe
> > lazarus) nicht existiert
> > update-alternatives: Warnung: Erstellung von
> > /usr/share/man/man1/svn2revisioninc.1.gz wird übersprungen, weil
> > die
> > zugehörige Datei /usr/share/man/man1/svn2revisioninc-3.8.1.gz (der
> > Link-Gruppe lazarus) nicht existiert
> > update-alternatives: Warnung: Erstellung von
> > /usr/share/man/man1/updatepofiles.1.gz wird übersprungen, weil die
> > zugehörige Datei /usr/share/man/man1/updatepofiles-3.8.1.gz (der
> > Link-
> > Gruppe lazarus) nicht existiert
> >
> > This says in German "Warning: Creation of ... is skipped, because
> > the
> > file ... (of the link group lazarus) doesn't exist." for these 5
> > files.
> > They also don't exist after the installation:
> You are probably missing a package (which means a missing dependency
> on our side)
> I'll try to find that dependency, but if you can send me the list of
> installed lazarus and lcl packages it could help me.
> something like aptitude search 'lazarus|^lcl-'
# aptitude search 'lazarus|^lcl-' | grep '^i'
i lazarus - IDE for Free Pascal - SDK dependency package
i A lazarus-3.8 - IDE for Free Pascal - suite
i A lazarus-ide - IDE for Free Pascal - dependency package
i A lazarus-ide-3.8 - IDE for Free Pascal - common IDE files
i A lazarus-ide-gtk2-3.8 - IDE for Free Pascal - GTK+ version
i A lazarus-src-3.8 - IDE for Free Pascal - LCL source code
i A lcl-3.8 - Lazarus Components Library - LCL suite
i A lcl-gtk2-3.8 - Lazarus Components Library - GTK+ backend
i A lcl-nogui-3.8 - Lazarus Components Library - no GUI backend
i A lcl-units-3.8 - Lazarus Components Library - backend independent
components
i A lcl-utils-3.8 - Lazarus Components Library - command line build
tools
> > # stat /usr/share/man/man1/lazbuild.1.gz
> > /usr/share/man/man1/lazre.1.gzs /usr/share/man/man1/lrstolfm.1.gz
> > /usr/share/man/man1/svn2revisioninc.1.gz
> > /usr/share/man/man1/updatepofiles.1.gz
> > stat: cannot statx '/usr/share/man/man1/lazbuild.1.gz': No such
> > file or
> > directory
> > stat: cannot statx '/usr/share/man/man1/lazre.1.gzs': No such file
> > or
> > directory
> > stat: cannot statx '/usr/share/man/man1/lrstolfm.1.gz': No such
> > file or
> > directory
> > stat: cannot statx '/usr/share/man/man1/svn2revisioninc.1.gz': No
> > such
> > file or directory
> > stat: cannot statx '/usr/share/man/man1/updatepofiles.1.gz': No
> > such
> > file or directory
> I consider this the only remaining issue in this bug report.
> Is that OK for you?
Yes, that is ok. Sorry for the late reply, but I hope it still is
useful for you.
Thanks
Hansi
