On 2023-11-23, Andreas Henriksson wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 08:16:43PM +0100, Tobias Heider wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 10:51:04AM -0800, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
>> > On 2023-11-23, Andreas Henriksson wrote:
...
>> > > 3/ do we include patches?
>> > > 3.1/ No patches. If this is the desired path I can volunteer
>> > >      to test that it boots on my M1 machine. Other machines
>> > >      should probably be considered unsupported for now,
>> > >      even though they might have limited usefulness.
>> > > 3.2/ Minimal set of patches. We identify what we consider
>> > >      crutial only patches and recruit volunteers to test.
>> > >      M2 keyboard? USB? etc...
>> > > 3.3/ All asahi patches. We consider it simpler to just sync all patches
>> > >      with the asahi fork (even though some are even unused, like the
>> > >      devicetree patches). We trust the Asahi Linux project in their
>> > >      quest to upstream all their work and that they will rebase on newer
>> > >      releases and make our job easy.
>> > 
>> > I am inclined towards starting with no patches or a minimal set of
>> > patches. The asashi folks do seem to generally do a good job of
>> > upstreaming, so support should improve over time.
>
> I'm not against going this route, my only concern is using the asahi
> name while shipping an "inferior" variant (no patches). The Asahi Linux
> people have been very good at being end-user focused, fixing all kind of
> bugs and really go above and beyond to not compromise on end user
> experience. Not sure they'd appreciate us shipping it under their name
> while exposing "already fixed" bugs.... but what do I know.
> We can always add patches later I guess. The Trixie freeze is not
> happening soon and we're not providing any installer yet, so it should
> just be a few #debian-bananas people trying this out for a while still
> I guess.

This seems like the main blocker at this point; I am hoping to upload at
least 2024.01-rc6 to experimental shortly (and 2024.01 to unstable once
it releases), and it would be nice to include a u-boot variant
supporting these boards, but I am nervous about shipping patches.  As
you pointed out an unpatched version with asashi in the name might not
be appreciated... but ... uh, er. Hrm. I would really like to get this
in!

live well,
  vagrant

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