Hey Paul. On Sun, 2023-11-26 at 11:01 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > BTW Chris, I imagine you might have some issues for this page: > > https://wiki.debian.org/PrivacyIssues
In which respect? AFAICS that page is mainly about privacy (in the sense of calling home). My main concern is rather security, in terms of packages which download code or similar from remote (e.g. like Firefox used to download the binary-only OpenH264 stuff). And we do unfortunately have quite some "downloader" packages in Debian and no general handling of how this is done. Some packages do it in a secure manner (IMO the best way is still to have a fresh version of the downloader package for every new upstream version, and the downloader package contains a hash sum of the downloaded content - that should prevent all things like downgrade/blocking attacks... but of course requires the package to be kept up2date). Now if you meant that I would want to add something to the above wiki, because of update-smart-drivedb "calling home", then from my PoV this isn't really necessary: I think the purpose of update-smart-drivedb is pretty clear from its documentation: fetching current data from upstream (Actually I'd rather think that the --install functionality should be outside of the tool.) It should be obvious to anyone, that upstream will at least know your IP from that. IMO, that's not really a privacy issue, as its obvious. What are rather issues is, if e.g. Firefox silently sends all kinds of data to Mozilla (the whole "healthreport" and telemetry stuff) and too Google ("Safe Browsing") and possibly even more. Or when a tool like gitg contacts gravatar[0] with all emails it encounters in a git repo, from which others could rather easily deduce *which* repo one is working on. Cheers, Chris. [0] There's an option now in it to disable it (after I've lobbied for quite a while for it ^^), not sure whether it's on/off per default, though.