Hi Rene,
On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 09:25:26 +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> Nope. Don't use nvidia is the solution here, as simple as that. "Augen
> auf beim Hardwarekauf" is a idiom here in Germany, rougly translated
> "Open your eyes when buying hardware"
Exactly this „Augen auf beim Hardwarekauf” was what I did when I once bought
this expensive hires and large screen durable, long-living notebook. It was
delivered even with a preinstalled Linux on it instead of windows, and if you
look back nvidia was recommended for linux, exactly because of other
manufacturers didn't care much for linux drivers in those days. So there's no
point in saying "Augen auf". Nowadays I couldn't effort to buy an equivalent
replacement, so also there is no point in saying “dump it, while it's still
working absolutely fine and fast and does it's job on everyday usage”, as you
did before.
On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 09:25:26 +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
>For exactly the reasons you reiterate below people should not use or buy
>nvidia stuff.
You could be sure, the way they have treated me by trying to brick this
perfectly working notebook I will never ever again buy nvidia, and wouldn't
ever recommend it to other people.
On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 09:25:26 +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> use nouveau. Or use nouveau from the start.
You should read more carefully, please. I had clearly stated:
> [...] proprietary nvidia driver. With the latter all GUI
> menus open immediately, without any delay, while with
> nouveau driver you'll have to wait sometimes more than
> 8 seconds for a response after click.
Let me know if you have an idea how to use this obviously broken nouveau driver
for everyday work. The noveau driver is what actually makes this notebook slow
and nonfunctional. I really would like to follow your advice to get rid of the
nvidia proprietary stuff. Btw, there is no point in saying “use it from the
start”, since there simply was no nouveau driver.
On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 09:25:26 +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> For the record: This is not bullseye. It is bullseye without updates
> (and especially security updates) (bullseye contains deb11u3, security
> deb11u4)
Again, you should read way more carefully, really. I had clearly stated:
> This was a test using the preinstalled version as present
> in the Live USB device. I'll apply an apt-upgrade to this
> USB stick tomorrow and recheck. The installation-candidate
> for Libreoffice is: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4, which will be the
> next one I'm going to check out.
[...]
> Will check back with additional results once updated both
> the system and Libreoffice as said above.
So, as promised, I'm back with a report from completely recent apt-upgraded
bullseye system (still without any backports).
Sadly, same issue with Libreoffice as described originally is present.
Technical data:
Libreoffice Version as reported by GUI:
Version: 7.0.4.2
Build ID: 00(Build:2)
CPU threads: 1; OS: Linux 4.9; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: de-DE (de_DE.UTF-8); UI: de-DE
Debian package version: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
Calc: threaded
$ apt-cache policy libreoffice* | grep -v '(keine)' | grep -B1 Installiert
libreoffice-calc:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
libreoffice-base-core:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
libreoffice-core:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
libreoffice-common:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
libreoffice-draw:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
libreoffice-impress:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
libreoffice-l10n-de:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
libreoffice-style-colibre:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
libreoffice-writer:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
libreoffice-help-de:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
libreoffice-help-common:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
libreoffice-math:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
libreoffice-gtk3:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
ucf:
Installiert: 3.0043
libabw-0.1-1:
Installiert: 0.1.3-1
libc6:
Installiert: 2.31-13+deb11u5
libe-book-0.1-1:
Installiert: 0.1.3-2
libepubgen-0.1-1:
Installiert: 0.1.1-1
libetonyek-0.1-1:
Installiert: 0.1.9-4
libgcc-s1:
Installiert: 10.2.1-6
libicu67:
Installiert: 67.1-7
libmwaw-0.3-3:
Installiert: 0.3.17-1
libodfgen-0.1-1:
Installiert: 0.1.8-2
librevenge-0.0-0:
Installiert: 0.0.4-6+b1
libstaroffice-0.0-0:
Installiert: 0.0.7-1
libstdc++6:
Installiert: 10.2.1-6
libuno-cppu3:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
libuno-sal3:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
libuno-salhelpergcc3-3:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
libwpd-0.10-10:
Installiert: 0.10.3-1
libwpg-0.3-3:
Installiert: 0.3.3-1
libwps-0.4-4:
Installiert: 0.4.12-1
libxml2:
Installiert: 2.9.10+dfsg-6.7+deb11u2
uno-libs-private:
Installiert: 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4
zlib1g:
Installiert: 1:1.2.11.dfsg-2+deb11u2
$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Debian
Description: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Release: 11
Codename: bullseye
uname -r
4.9.0-326-antix.1-686-smp-pae
$ lscpu
(same as above)
$ free
gesamt benutzt frei gemns. Puffer/Cache verfügbar
Speicher: 2061432 231744 435144 997588 1394544 765336
Swap: 2097148 1780 2095368
Now I'll install the bullseye backported Libreoffice version from bookworm as
you've asked for also, and check back with an updated report once it was done.
Regards
Robin
