Le sam. 8 oct. 2022 à 11:00, Niels Thykier <ni...@thykier.net> a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I have BCC'ed debian-devel on this email to ask for input on this bug
> (#903158) and ask parties that are interested to follow up there.  I am
> considering to remove the dependencies for -dbgsym packages on the
> grounds that:
>
>   1) They are too weak when M-A: foreign is involved and they are not
>      always help (see the partial email quote from the bug below)

  2) We now have a debuginfod service, so you do not even have to install
>      dbgsym packages anymore (if you configure gdb to use it).  For the
>      cases where you do install the dbgsym, you still have to manage
>      inter-source dbgsym dependencies manually
>
The second point make me unease... I often debug without an stable internet
connection (embeded).

> As a debhelper maintainer, I willing to either keep the status quo and
> close the bug as wontfix or close the bug by removing the dependencies.
> If you hoping for another outcome, I expect you to be ready to put the
> effort and patches required to reach the outcome.
>

I think wontfix is the way to go but document also in devref...

Bastien

> Thanks,
> ~Niels
>
> On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 21:04:59 +0200 Helmut Grohne <hel...@subdivi.de> wrote:
> > Hi Niels,
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 04, 2018 at 08:38:00AM +0000, Niels Thykier wrote:
> > > On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 11:40:54 +0300 "Yuriy M. Kaminskiy"
> > > <yumkam+deb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I think (at least, 'Multi-arch: foreign' *and* 'Architecture' != all)
> > > > packages should have explicit parent package arch dependency
> > > >    Depend: foo:${Arch} (=${binary:Version})
> > > > instead of
> > > >    Depend: foo (=${binary:Version})
> > > > Untested patch against debhelper 11.3.5 attached (please review
> > > > carefully, I'm neither M-A nor debhelper expert).
> >
> > Yes, this makes somewhat sense.
> >
> > Personally, I disagree with the Depends though. I've often been in the
> > situation of wanting to debug a foreign core file or remotely attaching
> > to a process on a different system. These dependencies were not helpful
> > at all in these situations. Personally, I'm in favour of making -dbgsym
> > packages dependency-less. I acknowledge that others see things
> > different.
>

Maybe we could have instead of dépends recommand with correct arch ans
depends. Stacktrace will ne complete with bare apt. But package are self
contained. Best of both world.

Bastien

> In any case, we agree that if we want the dependency, then it is
> > presently too weak.
> >
> > [...]
>
>

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