Le sam. 8 oct. 2022 à 11:00, Niels Thykier <ni...@thykier.net> a écrit :
> Hi, > > I have BCC'ed debian-devel on this email to ask for input on this bug > (#903158) and ask parties that are interested to follow up there. I am > considering to remove the dependencies for -dbgsym packages on the > grounds that: > > 1) They are too weak when M-A: foreign is involved and they are not > always help (see the partial email quote from the bug below) 2) We now have a debuginfod service, so you do not even have to install > dbgsym packages anymore (if you configure gdb to use it). For the > cases where you do install the dbgsym, you still have to manage > inter-source dbgsym dependencies manually > The second point make me unease... I often debug without an stable internet connection (embeded). > As a debhelper maintainer, I willing to either keep the status quo and > close the bug as wontfix or close the bug by removing the dependencies. > If you hoping for another outcome, I expect you to be ready to put the > effort and patches required to reach the outcome. > I think wontfix is the way to go but document also in devref... Bastien > Thanks, > ~Niels > > On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 21:04:59 +0200 Helmut Grohne <hel...@subdivi.de> wrote: > > Hi Niels, > > > > On Sat, Aug 04, 2018 at 08:38:00AM +0000, Niels Thykier wrote: > > > On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 11:40:54 +0300 "Yuriy M. Kaminskiy" > > > <yumkam+deb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I think (at least, 'Multi-arch: foreign' *and* 'Architecture' != all) > > > > packages should have explicit parent package arch dependency > > > > Depend: foo:${Arch} (=${binary:Version}) > > > > instead of > > > > Depend: foo (=${binary:Version}) > > > > Untested patch against debhelper 11.3.5 attached (please review > > > > carefully, I'm neither M-A nor debhelper expert). > > > > Yes, this makes somewhat sense. > > > > Personally, I disagree with the Depends though. I've often been in the > > situation of wanting to debug a foreign core file or remotely attaching > > to a process on a different system. These dependencies were not helpful > > at all in these situations. Personally, I'm in favour of making -dbgsym > > packages dependency-less. I acknowledge that others see things > > different. > Maybe we could have instead of dépends recommand with correct arch ans depends. Stacktrace will ne complete with bare apt. But package are self contained. Best of both world. Bastien > In any case, we agree that if we want the dependency, then it is > > presently too weak. > > > > [...] > >