Control: tags -1 moreinfo confirmed

On 2021-05-30 17:02:11, Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> Package: release.debian.org
> User: [email protected]
> Usertags: unblock
> X-Debbugs-Cc: Vasyl Gello <[email protected]>
> Control: submitter -1 Vasyl Gello <[email protected]>
> 
> Following #988611, I'm opening a new unblock bug to discuss the proposed
> update of src:kodi to the 19.1 point release.
> 
> Here, I'm forwarding the message that Vasyl already sent to the
> previous bug.
> 
> > I also prepared (but have not uploaded to Salsa yet) the 2:19.1+dfsg2-1 
> > that uses
> > the same embedded copies that were used in 2:19.0+dfsg1-1 that is currently 
> > in
> > bullseye.
> > 
> > Filtered diff from 2:19.0+dfsg1-2 to 2:19.1+dfsg2-1 is attached with the 
> > following
> > filtrdiff options:
> > 
> > filterdiff kodi_19.0+dfsg1-2_19.1+dfsg2-1.diff \
> >         -x "*/addons/*.xml" \
> >         -x "*/cmake/scripts/windows/*" \
> >         -x "*/docs/*" \
> >         -x "*/Changelog" \
> >         -x "*/Makefile.in" \
> >         -x "*/*.m4" \
> >         -x "*/configure" \
> >         -x "*/msvc/*" \
> >         -x "*/media/*" \
> >         -x "*/system/*" \
> >         -x "*/tools/buildsteps/windows/*" \
> >         -x "*/xbmc/cores/VideoPlayer/VideoRenderers/windows/*" \
> >         -x "*/xbmc/windowing/win10/*" \
> >         -x "*/xbmc/windowing/windows/*" \
> >         1>kodi_19.0+dfsg1-2_19.1+dfsg2-1.filtered.diff
> 
> 
> Also, two other messages to give some context:
> 
> On 2021-05-30 16:10:02 +0200, Sebastian Ramacher wrote:
> > On 2021-05-30 09:25:27 +0000, Vasyl Gello wrote:
> > > As I wrote in the private message to you earlier this week, I don't want 
> > > to take
> > > responsibility from the Kodi upstream and cherry-pick only some bugfixes 
> > > that might
> > > be considered "important" from my PoV. This creates an inconsistent user 
> > > experience
> > > across vanilla Kodi and Kodi from Debian, plus requires me to spend even 
> > > more time
> > > carefully testing each combination of cherry-picked commits in addition 
> > > to all the
> > > time I already spent fixing a lot of stuff upstream and in Debian.
> > >
> > > The Kodi upstream has an estabilished testing and backport culture, and 
> > > it is not that
> > > easy to slip a risky change into a stable branch (which 19.x currently 
> > > is). Plus all
> > > upstream changes must pass CI before getting merged.
> > >
> > > If it is not possible to have 19.x point (bugfix) releases in bullseye, I 
> > > think
> > > I will upload next point releases to experimental during the bullseye 
> > > freeze,
> > > then to bullseye-backports after bookworm development cycle starts. And 
> > > for stable
> > > branch I will port only CVE fixes and bug fixes reported to Debian.
> > 
> > I don't think my previous answer implied that the 19.x bugfix release
> > is unfit for bullseye. It was an attempt to get some important fixes
> > into the release as -2 first, and to then have a look at the
> > other changes.
> > 
> > Unfortunately your descriptions of the changes in kodi (and all the
> > plugins) are very terse and only highlight changes that sound like they
> > would fit the freeze policy. The other changes -- like the
> > reimplementation of kodi's logging which is a few hundred lines if not
> > more or newly added features -- are swept under the rug. We do not have
> > the time to dig into upstream's decision to include those changes and the
> > associated risks. If you as maintainer think that it's worth having
> > these changes in bullseye, please help us reviewing the changes by
> > explaining why the changes are needed and the potential regressions
> > they could introduce.

With the discussion now present in the old unblock bug (#988611),
please go ahead. Remove the moreinfo tag once the new version is
available in unstable.

Cheers
-- 
Sebastian Ramacher

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