Hi Petter, Thank you for your reply. If you have a chance, could you please try compiling the VM from sources on your own Debian development system, and try running the Etoys image to see if it works. I have no way to test this myself, and I have not been able to find someone in the Squeak community with a suitable development level Debian system to do the test. I expect that you can do this in 15 minutes or less, as it is just a matter of doing a "make; sudo make install".
To ensure that we are working from a common reference point, please use the sources that I put here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzi8Tf4EvjhoYTNEUDRCc09KOEk/view?usp=sharing Thank you very much! Dave > > Hi, and thank you for reaching out. > > [David T. Lewis] >> I am an upstream maintainer for the traditional Squeak VM, which is >> package squeak-vm on Debian. Etoys is an important package for kids >> around the world, so I would like to help resolve the squeak-vm package >> issue that is causing problems for Etoys on Debian, as documented in >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=862576. Although I am >> not a Debian developer (and I do not have an up to date Debian system >> for testing), I may be able to provide some useful guidance, and I would >> be happy to collaborate with the squeak-vm package maintainers to >> resolve >> the issue. > > Note, dropping the reduced optimizing flag is tracked as bug #872252, so > lets follow up there instead. I bounced your original email there, and > changed the To: field appropriately. > > Note, I am not much involved in the maintenance of Squeak VM in Debian, > but come from the Debian Edu side where we use it. :) > >> I do need some help to get this sorted out, so please consider this a >> plea >> for assistance :-) >> >> Background: >> >> The squeak-vm package is based on a fairly old snapshot of the source >> code >> from the upstream squeakvm.org site, and has accumulated various patches >> and changes since that snapshot of the sources. The current upstream >> sources >> are greatly improved since the snapshot on which the Debian squeak-vm >> package >> is based, and is suitable for running the Etoys package on both 32-bit >> and >> 64-bit distributions. > > One thing that would help the maintainers is to know which of the 5 > patches in > <URL: https://sources.debian.net/patches/squeak-vm/1:4.10.2.2614-4.1/ > > are now included in the official upstream source. Can you tell? > >> The current sources are easily compiled, and are known to work with >> the Etoys image on recent Debian-based distributions. Having said >> that, I do not know for sure, and cannot guarantee, that there will >> not be issues on the latest Debian version. However, if problems arise >> I am fairly confident that we will be able to resolve them through a >> bit of email collaboration. > > Is it running in valgrind without any issues reported? Does it build > with both the most recent gcc and clang compilers? Those tests tend to > weed out quite a few bugs, so I thought it best to ask early. :) > >> What we need to do: >> >> Replace the old source package for squeak-vm with a source snapshot >> based >> on the current upstream sources at squeak-vm.org. I expect that this >> will >> produce a reliable squeak-vm for both 32-bit and 64-bit distributions. >> We >> will need to confirm this by running Etoys on the new VM. > > Why a snapshot and not a release? > > -- > Happy hacking > Petter Reinholdtsen >
