On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:10:22PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Hi Christian, > > thanks a lot for your detailed reply! > > I've CCed the pkg-systemd-maintainers m-l and Wouter, as the maintainer > of nbd.
Right, thanks. I had gotten nbd working properly in combination with systemd in stretch during dc16, but somehow it stopped working before the release (and I only found out like a week or so before the release, way too late to fix it). As chance would have it, I was on an airplane yesterday and spent some time debugging things. I managed to get things to almost work on a VM (the block device gets yanked away at the wrong time during shutdown still, and there's another issue for which you must just have seen a bug report appear), but at least it's almost back to functional now. What I found works is that [email protected] has this: (...) [Unit] After=network-online.target DefaultDependencies=no Conflicts=shutdown.target [Install] RequiredBy=dev-%i.device RequiredBy=dev-%ip1.device RequiredBy=dev-%ip2.device (... etc, for fifteen partitions ...) It *should* also need a "Before=dev-%i.device", which *used* to work (back at dc16), but stopped working some time between then and now. However, that only supports nbd devices that are configured in fstab and nbdtab. Things that are configured manually don't work that way. I agree that it is necessary to make systemd be aware of the connection that exists between some block devices and the user setup that is necessary for them to appear. Currently it doesn't, and I managed to somewhat get it to work before, but essentially that was just a hack. This support would be necessary for AoE devices too, btw. Ideally, the link between the userspace setup and the block device would be something that could be discovered by udev and signalled to systemd by way of a variable there (like, say, the SYSTEMD_READY thing that is set on unconnected nbd devices now). That way, you could set a udev rule declaring the link between a service and a device, and it would work regardless of whether the mount is done manually. > You raise some good points. Maybe this is something you could bring up > on the upstream mailing list? It seems like it should be discussed there > and it would be really helpful if someone knowledgeable in this area has > this conversation there. I was actually considering doing something like this myself, since as per the above I'd come to a similar conclusion. Systemd currently doesn't seem to understand that it is necessary, and that's a problem. Thanks for bringing it up first. (actually, I was also hoping to catch you during dc17 in Montreal, if you're going, so we can possibly discuss this in person) -- Could you people please use IRC like normal people?!? -- Amaya Rodrigo Sastre, trying to quiet down the buzz in the DebConf 2008 Hacklab
