Jean-Philippe MENGUAL:
> No problem to merge, I thought it was 2 issues: one related to c!ash;
> another to loss of conf data.

This sounds like two different consequences from the same cause --
crashing when running Mumble along with Orca and qt-at-spi.

> I'm not sure it is to be handled the same
> way. Typically, you may be able to reproduce this one with killall
> mumble or killall mumble -9. Or, as you say, poweroff the computer
> leaving mumble on.

If Mumble is started with an empty configuration but never closed before
doing a killall -9 then it will loose many (but not all) of the client
settings.  I think this likely explains why Sebastian Humenda was
experiencing this bug:

   https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=793340#37

Once Mumble is configured and closed once normally a killall -9 doesn't
loose settings -- or at least that's what I see with my testing so far.
(I tried about a dozen or so times.)

> For the crash, when you say you don't reproduce, have you tried with
> Orca and qt-at-spi installed?

I said that I had in the previous bug, and at the time I had tested this
both on Sid and with a Testing VM.  (I did not re-test right now.)

   https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=793340#32

> Is master/daily release the same than testing one?

They are.  gnome-orca 3.20.2, qt-at-spi 0.4.0-3.

Testing:
   https://packages.debian.org/testing/gnome/gnome-orca
   https://packages.debian.org/testing/misc/qt-at-spi

Unstable:
   https://packages.debian.org/unstable/gnome/gnome-orca
   https://packages.debian.org/unstable/misc/qt-at-spi


In order to be able to work on this bug I'd need information about
what's causing it, we have no information on that right now, and I can't
reproduce it.

   -- Chris

-- 
Chris Knadle
chris.kna...@coredump.us

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