On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 11:20:19AM +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> No shenanigans here.  The dpkg maintainer says that he wants guidance
> from policy.

I could say I want guidance from policy on what color of shirt I wear
to my next LUG meeting.  That doesn't mean it's a matter for policy.

> He wrote:

>     Actually my position is that if harmonisation of output
>     during install/upgrade is to occur, it should be mandated
>     by policy.

Hmm.  That's a very peculiar thing for him to say.  Perhaps you should
ask him why he said that, when the general opinion on the policy list
seems to be that this is not at all a matter for policy, and he is
free to "harmonize" or not, at his discretion.

I can think of three possible reasons he said that:

  1. He misunderstands the purpose and scope of policy,
  2. He was trying to give you a polite brush-off by setting you an
     impossible task, or
  3. He misunderstood what you were asking for.

And that is why I think you should ask for more information - to see
which of those three reasons is correct (or if there's some other
reason I've overlooked).  I tend to think the second reason is most
likely, but perhaps I'm judging too harshly.

> No my complaint is the one I voiced, that the Debian of today can be
> bureaucratic.  Making simple changes can sometimes be an
> unnecessarily long and  disagreeable process.

This is exacerbated by people who hide behind the bureaucracy to avoid
making decisions they are capable, competent and qualified to make.
Few, if any, of us want to or enjoy playing bureaucrat, and thus, you
shouldn't be surprised when there is a refusal to decide what color of
t-shirt you or the dpkg maintainer should wear, or where you should
put the newlines in your own programs' output.

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