Hi,

Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
> Sadsies. xscreensaver is my screensaver of choice.

Same here since xlockmore was removed due to unreliability and hence
security-relevant RC bugs.

> Sounds fine, let's file a RoM

Are you nuts? You just said, it's your favourite! Why do you want to
kill it?

Hilko Bengen wrote:
> Wouldn't it be better to first focus on the imminent problem that users
> are facing?

Definitely.

> Why should we or our users care about any of this?

We shouldn't. We should focus on the distribution _we_ want to use[0],
not on what some crazy upstreams think we should do or now.

[0] http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2012-01/004.html

> We should simply patch out those stupid warnings, maybe even leave a
> note in README.Debian for interested users to read, and be done with
> it.

Another option which should satisfy both, upstream and users is to
offer users the choice to use a backport of xscreensaver. But I'm
personally totally fine with having an 18 months old xscreensaver in
Stable. As I am with nearly all other packages. I mean, it's Stable,
not bleeding edge.

> I don't see a good substitute for xscreensaver in Debian at the moment:
> i3lock, slock, etc. are too bare-bones and don't really work for
> unexperienced users,

And gnome-screensaver (which looks like a fork of xscreensaver) lacks
quite some features like "xscreensaver-command -watch" while adding
additional and completely unnecessary dependencies on GNOME stuff
non-GNOME users don't need.

> Please, let's not remove xscreensaver just yet:

+1

> The software itself is stable and looks otherwise perfectly
> maintainable for people who can ignore the author's occasional
> tirade.

Well, if upstream can't communicate in a sane and polite manner and
continues to write such hate mails, there's still the possibility of
banning him from the BTS.

Just because some upstream hasn't read
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-choosing.en.html#s3.1.3
doesn't mean that we should remove all his packages from Debian.

                Regards, Axel
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