Hi, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote: > Sadsies. xscreensaver is my screensaver of choice.
Same here since xlockmore was removed due to unreliability and hence security-relevant RC bugs. > Sounds fine, let's file a RoM Are you nuts? You just said, it's your favourite! Why do you want to kill it? Hilko Bengen wrote: > Wouldn't it be better to first focus on the imminent problem that users > are facing? Definitely. > Why should we or our users care about any of this? We shouldn't. We should focus on the distribution _we_ want to use[0], not on what some crazy upstreams think we should do or now. [0] http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2012-01/004.html > We should simply patch out those stupid warnings, maybe even leave a > note in README.Debian for interested users to read, and be done with > it. Another option which should satisfy both, upstream and users is to offer users the choice to use a backport of xscreensaver. But I'm personally totally fine with having an 18 months old xscreensaver in Stable. As I am with nearly all other packages. I mean, it's Stable, not bleeding edge. > I don't see a good substitute for xscreensaver in Debian at the moment: > i3lock, slock, etc. are too bare-bones and don't really work for > unexperienced users, And gnome-screensaver (which looks like a fork of xscreensaver) lacks quite some features like "xscreensaver-command -watch" while adding additional and completely unnecessary dependencies on GNOME stuff non-GNOME users don't need. > Please, let's not remove xscreensaver just yet: +1 > The software itself is stable and looks otherwise perfectly > maintainable for people who can ignore the author's occasional > tirade. Well, if upstream can't communicate in a sane and polite manner and continues to write such hate mails, there's still the possibility of banning him from the BTS. Just because some upstream hasn't read https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-choosing.en.html#s3.1.3 doesn't mean that we should remove all his packages from Debian. Regards, Axel -- ,''`. | Axel Beckert <a...@debian.org>, http://people.debian.org/~abe/ : :' : | Debian Developer, ftp.ch.debian.org Admin `. `' | 4096R: 2517 B724 C5F6 CA99 5329 6E61 2FF9 CD59 6126 16B5 `- | 1024D: F067 EA27 26B9 C3FC 1486 202E C09E 1D89 9593 0EDE