On Apr 07, martin f krafft <[email protected]> wrote:

> admin's help is not acceptable. We may work hard to configure our
> services to provide sensible defaults, but the tendency is still not
> to turn them on by default.
I am not really sure of what this means.

> Our MTAs don't have default mail relays.
At least because there is no such service available.

> We don't enable AVAHI nor do we install cups-browsed to make things
> work out of the box.
Don't we? Then we probably should do it on desktop systems, since 
autoconfiguration greatly improves the user experience.

> We change upstream software to ensure as much
> as possible that we don't leak data. We file bug reports against
DNS queries intrinsecally leak data.

Also, your arguments about Debian having no defaults look a bit empty 
when looking at your original bug report in which you suggest OpenNIC as 
an acceptable default.

> So no, no concrete threat model. But I hope I was able to argue that
Cool, everything is still OK then.

-- 
ciao,
Marco

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