On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:30:08AM +0200, Andreas Henriksson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 03:01:57PM -0700, [email protected] wrote: > > The upload wouldn't need to be synchronized; as mentioned in my original > > report, util-linux could either divert mountpoint or add a Replaces. > > A Replaces without a Conflict or Breaks is a policy violation though, > and while I have no problem being pragmatic I don't like introducing > RC bugs this close to the freeze.... also Adam Conrad has strongly > NAKed this approach already.
Fair enough. > > Seems easier to poke the sysvinit maintainers once util-linux has a > > version to add a versioned Depends on, and then util-linux can > > optionally drop the diversion (with a Conflicts/Replaces, note that I > > don't think Breaks suffices here) or version the Replaces. > > > > > As both systemd and sysvinit-core depends on initscripts I don't really > > > see the hurry for this. Please feel free to enlighten me. > > > > systemd no longer needs any of the init scripts from initscripts; the > > mountpoint binary is the primary thing that keeps it depending on > > initscripts. I'd love to try to get that dependency dropped before the > > freeze. > > I've talked to the systemd maintainers about this already and they had > no hurry to drop the dependency and suggested waiting with this > until after the release. > > I have no problem going ahead with this if all other parties are onboard. > If noone else is onboard, I guess there's not much use to do this in a hurry. OK. > Please talk to the systemd maintainers (and preferrably also upstart people) > about this. If they think we should go ahead, then I'll take care of the > util-linux side and I'm sure we can get sysvinit NMUed if those teams > are on board as well. I'd previously talked with systemd and sysvinit folks around the time I filed the original util-linux bug. But now, this close to the freeze, sentiments may have changed. > Please consider the util-linux side of this handled, it's the other parties > that need someone to volunteer to go ahead with this. Thanks! Can you specify a version number for util-linux that will have the transition, for use in sysvinit's control file? > I'm keen on seeing this (and many other) takeover happen, but I've gained > enough enemies as it is (and feel deeply demotivated by the current state > of affairs in Debian) so I think I'll avoid potentially causing major > breakage on my own for now. Understandable, and yeah, my sympathies. - Josh Triplett -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected]
