On 02/23/2014 07:16 AM, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: > If jessie were released today, would this package really be useful?
No, it wouldn't, you're right. But MATE consists of more than just one package. Granted, we should have probably uploaded to experimental first, but we have opted for unstable now and have to live with that. Blocking just one package with an RC bug isn't really helpful either, we'd have to block all MATE-related packages if we really want to be sure that nothing breaks, wouldn't we? > If it's not ready for release, it shouldn't land in testing... and an RC bug > would be an appropriate way to keep it out until it's actually ready... True. But since we know Jessie isn't going to be frozen until November 5th [1], I don't see any reason to kick off any discussions about the current usability of any packages in testing or unstable yet. We're right in the middle of the development process of the upcoming Debian Jessie release and things are expected to break. And bug reports like these just distract the maintainers from doing their job. If you want something stable, use Debian stable. I know that Debian testing comes with a certain level of QA, but it's still not guaranteed to be as stable as the real Debian stable. The MATE packaging efforts have gained lots of momentum recently and many others have joined the team to help us with great results. MATE in Debian has made great progress due to these people investing lots of their free time into it and I am very happy to have these guys! So, instead of complaining in bug reports, I'd rather see people joining and helping us to mitigate these issues as quickly as possible. Adrian > [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2013/10/msg00004.html -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org