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Hi,

Am So den  1. Dez 2013 um 21:32 schrieb Chris Knadle:
> > Looking at mumble-server I can see that per default, dbus is not used
> > but the debian default configuration has it enabled.
> 
> The configuration file (which is the default from uptream) implies that dbus 
> is not used by default, but off the top of my head I'm not sure I can see a 
> way of building mumble-server such that it won't depend on it.
> 
> Looking at the reverse dependencies of libdbus-1-3, it's depended on by 
> libavahi-compat-ilbdnssd1 which is a dependency for mumble-server by way of 
> the build (i.e. via ${shlibs:Depends} or ${misc:Depends}), and the dbus 
> daemon 
> is depended on by libdbus-1-3.

~> apt-cache show libdbus-1-3
...
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.10)
Pre-Depends: multiarch-support
Recommends: dbus
...

So that is not a problem. I'm great with this dependency.

I would even like it not to depend on avahi, but I am not sure at the
moment if or how to archive this.

> > Please lower the dependency to, at least, recommend if not to suggest.
> > To have a hard dependency on dbus lowers the quality of the package and
> > is a volation of the debian policy.
> 
> It would be nice for mumble-server not to depend on dbus, but I'm not sure 
> what's required to make that happen.  If you could, please get the 'mumble' 
> source package and have a look at the debian/control file and help figuring 
> out whether this is possible.

On my server I replaced dbus by a equivs dummy package without any
negative effect.

So there should be no problem to even lower the dependency in mumble
server too and maybe have this configuration option commented out.

It's not about the libdbus, that I personally don't like but will do no
harm. It's about the dbus daemon. Just putting dbus from Depends to
Recommends header (or even left it out completely as it is recommended
by libdbus-1-3) should make the job.

For normal user, this would not make any difference but help a
responsible admin to lower the foot print of his server.

Regards
   Klaus
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