Jim -- My intention has always been GPL pure and simple, same as
linux.
Not really keen on reading the entire discussion below, am just
going to file it;
basically my view on the license matches what Linus said in a
recent interview. Hope this clarifies things.
>>>>> "James" == James R Van Zandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
James> T. V. Raman -
James>
James> Another Debian developer noticed that the emacspeak
James> sources have several contradictory copyright notices,
James> and questions whether it meets the Debian Free
James> Software Guidlines. We'd appreciate some
James> clarification on two points:
James>
James> What copyright actually covers emacspeak?
James>
James> Is modification and distribution of derived works
James> permitted? Specifically, does the license meet the
James> following two requirements of the DFSG:
James>
James> Derived Works
James>
James> The license must allow modifications and derived
James> works, and must allow them to be distributed under the
James> same terms as the license of the original software.
James>
James> Integrity of The Author's Source Code
James>
James> The license may restrict source-code from being
James> distributed in modified form only if the license
James> allows the distribution of "patch files" with the
James> source code for the purpose of modifying the program
James> at build time. The license must explicitly permit
James> distribution of software built from modified source
James> code. The license may require derived works to carry
James> a different name or version number from the original
James> software. (This is a compromise. The Debian Project
James> encourages all authors to not restrict any files,
James> source or binary, from being modified.)
James>
James> The bug report, with a more complete discussion,
James> follows.
James>
James> - Jim Van Zandt
James>
James>
James> ------- Start of forwarded message -------
James>
James> To: Debian Bug Tracking System
James> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: emacspeak: might be
James> non-free MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain;
James> charset=iso-8859-15 Message-Id:
James> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From:
James> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:18:57
James> +0100
James>
James> Package: emacspeak Version: 17.0-1 Severity: severity
James>
James> The copyright of emacspeak is confusing, and the
James> package is possibly non-free:
James>
James> debian/copyright claims two contradicting licenses for
James> the packages. The first seems to be present in some
James> source files:
James>
James> ,---- | Copyright: | | Source files contain this
James> copyright notice: |
James>
----------------------------------------------------------------------
James> | ;;{{{ Copyright: | | ;;;Copyright (C) 1995, 1996,
James> 1997 T. V. Raman Adobe Systems Incorporated | ;;;
James> Copyright (c) 1996 by T. V. Raman | ;;; All Rights
James> Reserved. | ;;; | ;;; This file is not part of GNU
James> Emacs, but the same permissions apply. | ;;; | ;;;
James> GNU Emacs is free software; you can redistribute it
James> and/or modify | ;;; it under the terms of the GNU
James> General Public License as published by | ;;; the Free
James> Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your
James> option) | ;;; any later version. | ;;; | [...] `----
James>
James> On the other hand, there is a file etc/COPYRIGHT which
James> seems to be a copyright file for the whole
James> package. The license therein is non-free because it
James> does not explicitly allow modifcation:
James>
James> ,---- |
James>
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
James> | ;;; Author: T. V. Raman, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |
James> ;;;Copyright (C) 1995 -- 2002, T. V. Raman | ;;; All
James> Rights Reserved | ;;; Author: T. V. Raman, Digital
James> Equipment Corporation. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | ;;;
James> Copyright 1994, 1995 by Digital Equipment Corporation,
James> Maynard, MA. | ;;; All Rights Reserved | ;;; $Id:
James> COPYRIGHT,v 17.0 2002/11/23 01:29:08 raman Exp $ |
James> ;;;Permission to use, copy, and distribute this
James> software and its documentation | ;;;for any purpose
James> and without fee is hereby granted, provided that the
James> above | ;;;copyright notice appears in all copies and
James> that both that copyright notice | ;;;and this
James> permission notice, including the disclaimers below,
James> appear in | ;;;supporting documentation, and that the
James> name of Adobe and Digital not be | ;;;used in
James> advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of
James> the software | ;;;without specific, written prior
James> permission. | | Digital Equipment Corporation, and
James> T.V. Raman | ;;;DISCLAIM ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO
James> THIS SOFTWARE, INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED | ;;;WARRANTIES
James> OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS. IN NO EVENT SHALL
James> Digital | ;;;Equipment Corporation, or T.V. Raman BE
James> LIABLE | ;;;FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL
James> DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES | ;;;WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM
James> LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN |
James> ;;;ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS
James> ACTION OR ANY ACTION OF | ;;;ANY OTHER KIND
James> WHATSOEVER, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE
James> USE OR | ;;;PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE. | ;;;
James> Permission to use, copy, and distribute this software
James> and its | ;;; documentation for any purpose and
James> without fee is hereby granted, provided | ;;; that the
James> above copyright notice appear in all copies and that
James> both that | ;;; copyright notice and this permission
James> notice appear in supporting | ;;; documentation, and
James> that the name of Adobe Systems not be used in | ;;;
James> advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of
James> the software without | ;;; specific, written prior
James> permission. `----
James>
James> (this is repeated for Adobe, and the disclaimer once
James> more for DEC)
James>
James> This file is still present in the current upstream
James> version.
James>
James> Additionally, the source contains a lot of sound files
James> without specific copyright notice. Some are probably
James> just sounds needed to synthesize speech, and may not
James> be copyrightable, or be spoken and copyright by
James> Mr. Raman. But files like
James>
James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/bbc-world-service.ram
James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/science-in-action-bbc.ram
James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/cnn-biz.ram
James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/cnn-si.ram
James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/cnn-cnn.ram
James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/cnn-sports.ram
James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/cnn-es.ram
James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/cnn-top-stories.ram
James> emacspeak-17.0/realaudio/radio/cnn-hn.ram
James>
James> Do sound like somebody else had a copyright on them.
James>
James> Minor issues with the copyright file:
James>
James> ,---- | Emacspeak is written and maintained by
James> T. V. Raman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `----
James>
James> But does not say who are the copyright holders; from
James> the later parts it seems that two companies are
James> involved, too.
James>
James> ,---- | It was downloaded from |
James> ftp://ftp.cs.cornell.edu/pub/raman/emacspeak/ `----
James>
James> However, the current sources are at
James>
James> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/emacspeak/
James>
James> Regards, Frank
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