On Sun, Jan 23, 2005 at 12:55:07PM +0100, Tom Cato Amundsen wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 04:50:45PM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote:
....
> > Any suggestions for a more active replacement?  I noticed someone
> > suggested pdesk in the woody forum.  pdesk doesn't seem to be packaged
> > for Debian.
> 
> I don't know any good replacements for woody. I liked it because it was
> a console program and could be used fast and without a keyboard.
hnb, in Debian, is pretty close.
Did you mean "without a mouse"?
> 
> Don't know if you have tried gtodo?
> 
No, at least not recently.  I'll give it a try.  A lot of todo things
lack hieararchy, which is a really important feature for me.

For the record, if anyone else is curious, here are some notes I made
on programs that are kind of in this area.  This is mostly from a
couple of years ago:

General database
----------------

edb     Emacs database.  See separate entry.  Some promise.
Installed.

pybliographer   for BibTex and others

quicklist       Very simple database builder and user.  Installed.

records-*       daily notes in emacs, with index

gaby

Postgres and gnome support

MySql

ToDo, Bug
---------

debbugs debian bug system

gtimer - GTK-based X11 task timer

karm - A time tracker for KDE

webrt   Web request tracker. Not installed.

devtodo Very simple command line tool

request-tracker1  Request Tracker helps you handle and track problem reports, 
it features
 web interfaces for queue administration and report submitting and sends out
 email with replies and comments to those reports.

korganizer  KDE todo, appointments, etc

evolution   includes todo list

emacs-goodies-el includes a todo mode; it is primitive and poorly documented

opie-* has todo component, but is oriented to embedded systems

mnemo Horde component, not really todo oriented

nag mulituser Horder todo

Yank is a simple notekeeper and todo-list manager using the gnome and
 gtk libraries.

Thinking
-----------------
gzigzag Ted Nelson's latest.  Multidimensionall and ordinal.
        Installed.

hnb     Hierarchical notebook.  Kind of a poor man's grandview.
        Since I have the real thing, I don't see much advantage.
        <FILE>/usr/local/src/hnb*</FILE>.  I uninstalled it.

thoughttracker  A non-hierarchical hyperlinked knowledge base.
        I don't think I've tried it.

remembrance-agent  Emacs mode to help find relevant texts
 The Remembrance Agent is one of the projects being developed by the MIT
 Media Lab's software agents group.  Given a collection of the user's
 accumulated email, usenet news articles, papers, saved HTML files and other
 text notes, it attempts to find those documents which are most relevant to
 the user's current context.  That is, it searches this collection of text
 for the documents which bear the highest word-for-word similarity to the
 text the user is currently editing, in the hope that they will also bear
 high conceptual similarity and thus be useful to the user's current work.
 These suggestions are continuously displayed in a small buffer at the
 bottom of the user's emacs buffer.  If a suggestion looks useful, the full
 text can be retrieved with a single command.

Woody is a hierarchical text editor/outliner. It allows you to
 group related bits of information together into a common
 meaningful category. It is similar to BrainForest for the Palm
 Pilot.  I like it, though it's text based and lacks gv's extra tags.




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