Package: tasksel Version: 2.74.2 Severity: wishlist Hi,
I think it is time to wonder what should go in the default GNOME
installation for the lenny release.
Currently, the "gnome-desktop" task consists of the
"gnome-desktop-environment" metapackage (official GNOME release) plus a
number of extras. However we already provide the "gnome" metapackage
which consists of g-d-e plus a number of extras to make a full-fledged
desktop.
I think that we should converge on the same set of packages, so that the
"gnome-desktop" task could simply install "gnome". This would avoid a
lot of unneeded synchronisation work, while the GNOME team knows what
packages are deprecated and which ones are introduced.
Here are the current differences.
Packages installed by the gnome package, not by tasksel:
* abiword: adding it would mean installing two word processors,
since openoffice is already part of the installation. However
abiword is much lighter and much more suitable for beginners
than OOo is, hence they cover different user needs, which is why
I end up installing both on my machines. However I’m not against
removing it from the "gnome" dependencies, or at least moving it
to recommends.
* dia: it’s not a very good application, but it doesn’t have any
suitable replacement. I think we should ship it by default, but
not that strongly.
* gnumeric: same problem as abiword, but the difference is that
gnumeric is superior to OOo calc in many ways. I feel it should
be the default for GNOME, even if it means not installing OOo
calc.
* inkscape: this one is a killer application. Let’s ship it by
default. Oh, and we don’t need OOo draw thanks to it :)
* planner: not very well maintained upstream, but it is a useful
application without many good replacements. I don’t feel
strongly about it, but it is small.
* gdm-themes: nice to have for customizing one’s desktop, just
like gnome-themes-extras.
* gnome-games: was removed from g-d-e, but we definitely want it.
* gnome-games-extra-data: nice themes to have, especially the
vector card themes.
* libpam-gnome-keyring: enhances GNOME keyring functionality a
lot, we should have it.
* gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly: adds support for some video formats
that gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg does not understand. We should have
it.
* system-config-printer: this application supersedes
gnome-cups-manager and foomatic-gui.
* tomboy: very nice app, but controversial since it brings the
full Mono stack, so we don’t make it part of
gnome-desktop-environment.
* totem-plugins: totem will lack functionality without it.
* serpentine: we set it as the default application to burn audio
CDs.
Packages installed by tasksel, not by the gnome package:
* gnome-cups-manager, foomatic-gui: superseded by
system-config-printer.
* gparted: not sure it is that useful, but we could add it to
gnome.
* update-notifier: not very well maintained, but definitely
useful. Maybe as a recommend?
* gnome-app-install: already here through recommends, but we can
make it more explicit.
* gdebi: we should definitely add it to gnome.
* transmission-gtk: I don’t know that application, but it sounds
like a useful addition to gnome.
* liferea: definitely a good addition to gnome.
* pidgin: we should add this one, or maybe rather telepathy, to
gnome.
* openoffice.org-gnome, openoffice.org-evolution: it sounds like
something that should remain as only installed by tasksel.
* evolution-plugins: sounds like something we forgot to add on our
side.
* tsclient: we now install vinagre which is part of the GNOME
release, which is nicer but lacks RDP support. I don’t know
what’s best for this one.
* iceweasel-gnome-support: should remain as only installed by
tasksel.
* gnomebaker: its functionality is mostly covered by having both
nautilus-cd-burner and serpentine.
* network-manager-gnome: I think we should at least recommend this
one.
* bluez-gnome: same as NM.
* xsane: probably something that should be added to gnome-office.
* arj, p7zip: we can probably add them (for the same reason they
are part of the task).
Starting from this list, I’d like your comments so that I can upload a
new meta-gnome2, after which, if you like the idea, tasksel could be
made to install gnome + a handful of packages, instead of the current
very long list.
Cheers,
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